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I've finally built my pc (first one in over a decade) and I'm trying to overclock the cpu. I modified a prodigy case to fit an matx board (green one) so I'm worried cooling might be an issue. I've decided to start at 4.2 ghz and go from there.

This is my first overclock and I have some concerns. I read the guide posted here about overclocking on a gigabyte board but I found a simplified version online.

I am achieving 4.2 ghz and keeping temps around 60 Celsius. I see the changes via CPUZ but when I run the stress tests via cinebench 11.5 I see no gains. In fact I can't even achieve my best score. My open gl test did increase slightly. I'm not sure what to do and need some help or some suggestions. I will list my system below.

Gigabyte G1 Sniper M5
8gb crucial ballistix ram 1866 9-9-9-27 (but for some reason in the bios it has it at 9-9-9-24)
Intel 4th Generation i7 4770k 3.5ghz
GTX 780 Evga FTW editon 980mhz.


These are the only changes I have made.

Cpu Clock Ratio: 42
Uncore Ratio: 42
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P) Profile1
Dram Timing Selections: Quick
CPU VRIN Loadline Calibration: Medium
CPU Vcore: 1.18
DRAM Voltage: 1.500


Any ideas why I haven't seen a performance gain but I do see the new clock speed and any suggestion to see an increase in performance?

Thank You,
Mase
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HI Mase

Lower scores in becnhmarks could be an indication that a system is unstable. Try running prime95 for a while prior to running the benchmarks to ensure its somewhat stable.

Also XMP does not always set the correct RAM speeds, change DRAM timing selection to expert, then manually put the CL timings in there.
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Thanks for the reply.

I downloaded Prime95 but I am totally new at this. Do I just let it run?

Also I increased the multiplier to 44 for 4.4 ghz and the Vcore to 1.25. This time I did notice gains. I went from 9.27 max on cinebench to 9.50.

I adjusted the ram manual as you said but it still read 9-9-9-24 frown.gif

Anything else in regards to the overclock I should adjust? Also what would be the max temperature? I have a very crowded/modified case and am using the EVO 220 cooler.

Thank again,
Mase
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Alright disregard the above post. The computer wasn't stable and 4.4.

I'm back to the identical specs in my first post.

It seems pretty stable I've been running Prime95 for about 30 minutes.
My ram still reads 9-9-9-24 even though I manually selected 27. Not sure what is going on there.

Also my max temperature was 85 degrees Celsius but an average of about 66-74

Back to the overclocking. Not sure what else to do and hitting the same or slightly lower scores using Cinebench cpu test can't be right. Something is going on. I tried using the guide but keep getting lost. I may attempt again. Maybe I have to adjust each core?

Any input would be appreaciated.

Thanks,
Mase
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Originally Posted by MaseWiN View Post

I've finally built my pc (first one in over a decade) and I'm trying to overclock the cpu. I modified a prodigy case to fit an matx board (green one) so I'm worried cooling might be an issue. I've decided to start at 4.2 ghz and go from there.

This is my first overclock and I have some concerns. I read the guide posted here about overclocking on a gigabyte board but I found a simplified version online.

I am achieving 4.2 ghz and keeping temps around 60 Celsius. I see the changes via CPUZ but when I run the stress tests via cinebench 11.5 I see no gains. In fact I can't even achieve my best score. My open gl test did increase slightly. I'm not sure what to do and need some help or some suggestions. I will list my system below.

Gigabyte G1 Sniper M5
8gb crucial ballistix ram 1866 9-9-9-27 (but for some reason in the bios it has it at 9-9-9-24)
Intel 4th Generation i7 4770k 3.5ghz
GTX 780 Evga FTW editon 980mhz.


These are the only changes I have made.

Cpu Clock Ratio: 42
Uncore Ratio: 42
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P) Profile1
Dram Timing Selections: Quick
CPU VRIN Loadline Calibration: Medium
CPU Vcore: 1.18
DRAM Voltage: 1.500


Any ideas why I haven't seen a performance gain but I do see the new clock speed and any suggestion to see an increase in performance?

Thank You,
Mase
With the beta bios on my z77x ud3h no matter what is saved in the bios it will not adjust after the first edit.
My stable has load line at standard I know it's a different gen and everything but standard is the best.
My ram is stock 9-9-9-24 so if yours loads like that within windows that's great
I have never been able to get past 4.4ghz with 2600k/ud3h frown.gif
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I was initially stuck at 4.2 but I was able to surpass it
2600k most stable at 1.36 still good at 1.348
loadline standard/normal
vcore standard/normal
offset +0.005 to .01
only stables for me

Turn XMP off that's where the ram timings are coming from
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Chaython
Yesterday at 10:23 pm
I hope to help you
your ram timing is from XMP being on
XMP is just preset profiles with a slight overclock compared to stock ram


Things to turn off
XMP
Turbo Boost
Set most voltages to standard/normal rather than auto

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 10:26 pm
Ok I will try that as soon as I let the system stress under Prime95 some more.

Can you possibly help me with the overclock as well ?

Thank you.

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 10:31 pm
If windows/computer are recognizing my ram at 9-9-9-24 even though on the box it says 9-9-9-27 should I leave it like that? Maybe its for the best?

Chaython
Yesterday at 10:34 pm
I wrote in your article just this is easier because pop-ups on refresh
I only have 2600k but should be pretty similar
My original oc was 4.2 it took me quite some time to get by it
I'm at 4.4 now can't get by it
1.364 was most stable for me currently I'm running 1.348 this is obviously irelevant to you
But this works best for me
offset .005 to 0.01
standard/normal loadline
standard/normal vcore
try most things with the options standard/normal rather than auto
anything on auto goes crazy
vcore forced is not energy efficient [to me]
loadline higher than medium to me crashed [people reconmended max load line which put me at 1.59v]
loadline standard/normal allows boot 4.4 fine
offset .005 because auto etc also pushes too much v

Chaython
Yesterday at 10:35 pm
no turn xmp off
manually set main timings
9-9-9-24 is good but xmp is another thing that causes issues [for me anyways]

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 10:38 pm
ok I will turn off xmp and set them to 9-9-9-24. 9-9-9-24 is better than 9-9-9-27 correct?

Also my max temperature so far has be 88-89c is that ok?

This is my first time attempting an overclock. I'm kind of lost.

Chaython
Yesterday at 10:41 pm
It's okay temp for prime
but load under common use I would never go over 70
you can look at http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1845420/4770k-h100i-80c-max-temp.html related to that question
ram timing is number of cycles 24 is three less cycles to 27 so yes it's faster

Chaython
Yesterday at 10:42 pm
for more information on ram timings http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Understanding-RAM-Timings/26 seems legitimate enough

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 10:47 pm
Temperatures got me worried. A part of me thinks I need more voltage.

Chaython
Yesterday at 10:50 pm
Higher voltage = higher temperature
so you want less voltage
unless you can get a new cooler or delid your cpu then you can go ahead tongue.gif
my overclock is 60c max but you must remember i'm on a 2600k

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 10:51 pm
Does higher voltage translate to better performance though ? What about changing the clocks on each individual core ? During gameplay I'm around 45-49 degrees

Chaython
Yesterday at 10:56 pm
Higher voltage = more stable
Higher temps = less stable
Higher clock = more performance
Lower ram timings = more performance
Stable overclock = more performance
it's fine if that's your temp in game
but you must take into account some games use more cpu than others

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 10:58 pm
My biggest problem is why didn't I see a performance gain going from 3.5 to 4.2 ghz?

Chaython
Yesterday at 11:00 pm
at 3.5 turbo was on to 3.9ghz
.3ghz shouldn't be that much
4.2 isn't a sweet spot

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 11:01 pm
How do I get to 4.4? Also temp is up to 57 in game.

Chaython
Yesterday at 11:02 pm
Once again depends on the game most are nice to the cpu
and have you tried the settings I stated above?
you can save profiles in bios in case you don't like the new settings


Chaython
Yesterday at 11:04 pm
and I said you should be ok temps for gaming

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 11:04 pm
The offset thing confused me a little bit.

Chaython
Yesterday at 11:06 pm
Okay so what're your current settings?

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 11:12 pm
CPU vicomte 1.185v. CPU clock ratio 4.2. Dram voltage 1.5. Memory 1866. CPU vcore offset 0.0 auto.

Chaython
Yesterday at 11:13 pm
Sorry I must go to bed.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/
is a good guide
He goes to a really risky temperature though.
It's also based on an Asus board rather than gigabyte
everything is relatively the same


MaseWiN
Yesterday at 11:14 pm
CPU base clock auto Host pcie clock freq 100.0. I saw on youtube maybe I should turn that up. Also on performance boost is auto. Should I put it to medium ? High? Turbo ? Extreme ?

MaseWiN
Yesterday at 11:14 pm
Ok I will

Chaython
Yesterday at 11:19 pm
CPU vcore offset 0.0 auto. I put mine as 0.005
I have CPU Vcore [CPU vicomte 1.185v] set to normal/standard
I have loadline set to normal/standard
I have bclock on auto [loads in windows as 99.7]
I have my memory at 1866mhz 9-10-9-24-1
I have multiplier 44
I have turbo clock off
virtualiztion on
igpu auto or off [unless you use it]
....
That oc guide is pretty comprehensive so try it
or try my settings
but I GTG bye
I hope I helped


Chaython
Yesterday at 11:22 pm
memory performance boost?
I actually have never noticed a difference
pcie/bclock is not good to touch because it overclocks cpu, gpu and ram at same time so it may help stable one but unstable other

Edited by Chaython - 12/20/13 at 9:53am
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