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Hey guys,
I am finally starting to mod my P180, and until my mobo comes in, I am getting the fans and CCFLs and miscellaneous junk ready. However, I have come to a major milestone. I am wondering where to place my pump.

Now I have two ideas in mind when thinking of where to place my pump. The former is the one I have been thinking about doing for the longest time. I got the idea from these photos.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7067/pc04kq9.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4/pc02ly5.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5383/pc03jg3.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6225/pc04le2.jpg

However, with this method, I will have to get rid of the blowhole fan to make room for the fillport. Here are a couple pictures that illustrate that there isn't enough room to keep the fan and still have a fillport in the top of the case













However, there is another way. I can instead mount the pump on the front of the case, where the upper hard drive cage would be. However, the problem with this is that the big pump may block a bit of airflow from the from 120mm fan. I really would like a good amount of airflow over my X1900XT's voltage regulators. Also, this will really increase the amount of tubing in my loop, probably doubling it (notice how short the loop at the top of the thread is!).







My question is this, really. Would removing the blowhole really mess up motherboard cooling? Or should I forego a bit of GPU cooling for the easier install (dont have a mount a pump on the roof). Argh, such decisions!
    
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i know pumping water upwards is against the law for you watercoolers but i see a nice place for that pump next to the PSU btw i don't believe in this pump getting restricted against gravaty and pumping upwards....
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i know pumping water upwards is against the law for you watercoolers but i see a nice place for that pump next to the PSU btw i don't believe in this pump getting restricted against gravaty and pumping upwards....

Boy, I didn't understand a word you just said.....



Do you mean in the lower chamber? I think I would have a problem with kinking tubing. However, that is perhaps another option. Thanks
    
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i know pumping water upwards is against the law for you watercoolers but i see a nice place for that pump next to the PSU btw i don't believe in this pump getting restricted against gravaty and pumping upwards....
Yeah. . .kinda like the Swiftech preconfigured P180:

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/Qpower-P180.asp#

Though your PSU is longer, and the D5 pump looks bigger than the one they used there you don't have the fan mounted down there. . .give it a shot!
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Yeah. . .kinda like the Swiftech preconfigured P180:

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/Qpower-P180.asp#

Though your PSU is longer, and the D5 pump looks bigger than the one they used there you don't have the fan mounted down there. . .give it a shot!
***** that is the worst set up i have ever seen, its all cluttered and the rad is INSIDE the case .
Anyways, i wont tell u how to set up your...set up, ill just explain how mine is.
I have the rad on the desk next to the case, so it gets the open air, the pump is near it, also on the desk and seeing as i only have 1/2' tubing i let them run through one of the PCI grates in the back of the case.
Nice n simple
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Thanks x'ed man, Yeah, I am not a huge fan of that custom 180 setup linked above. However, the reservoir is an interesting idea.

I will continue to try and discern the best method for my setup....more ideas welcome.
    
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If you consider changing the side panel I watercooled a rig by building the res into the side panel (using the space between the bay side and side panel of about an 1 inch) and mounted the pump on the case floor where the PCI slots are (I don't use them) . Having the rad inside the case is actually a good idea if you duct air in and out without it going into the case interior. The way I did that was mount the rad on the side panel (under the res) and made an acrylic duct that covered the rad and the front intake fan.

I realise the P 180 has some quirks but the basic principle is the same. Mount the pump anywhere there is a spot as long as it is below the resevoir. If you mount the rad inside make sure to duct air through it and out of the case or suffer high interior temps.
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If you flip that rad so the barbs are down and run the tubes through a PCI slot,
place a res where you have the pump in the 3rd pic, mount the pump inlet up
in the lower case chamber(sidewall will work), you'll get great flow from the
gravity fed res setup(this pump has an 10ft head) You can make this work.
  
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post #9 of 11
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Thanks CyberDruid.

I am pretty sure that I have ruled out my second method. I think I am going to do the method that Zero3d at silentpcreview did and cut a hole in the upper blowhole fan area and just mount the fillport there. The T-line is only going to be about 2" long, but oh well. I figure that having an unobstructed front area is more important to component cooling than having the pump in an easier location. My X1900XT needs the air.

As far as northbridge cooling, I think I will just put the included P5W-DH Northbridge fan on, and I will still have the rear fan to get air out again (on low).

I think the shorter loop should help out temps, as well.

EDIT: Damnit, Dryad, thats a good idea. I will see if I can get it setup when I get home tonight.
    
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***** that is the worst set up i have ever seen, its all cluttered and the rad is INSIDE the case .
Anyways, i wont tell u how to set up your...set up, ill just explain how mine is.
I have the rad on the desk next to the case, so it gets the open air, the pump is near it, also on the desk and seeing as i only have 1/2' tubing i let them run through one of the PCI grates in the back of the case.
Nice n simple
If it wasn't clear, I was talking about the pump location, not the radiator as I thought that was the question asked. But what can I say. . .I'm new.

I for one am thinking of doing it with the pump, res, and rad in a separate self contained unit, but the idea of moving it around seems a little less elegant than getting a nice big case and mounting the rad on the back.

For what it's worth, I can't judge the method that another person chooses. . . some people would rather the clutter was hidden in the case as opposed to strewn about on their desk. Custom modding gives us the ability to decided for ourselves what we want out of our machines, no harm in seeing other methods though eh?

OK. . .I think I'm going back to being a lurker.
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