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Im about to buy this Corsair K70 keyboard with Cherry MX Brown Switches

http://www.corsair.com/us/gaming-peripherals/gaming-keyboards/vengeance-k70-fully-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown.html

I hear that blue switches are hard for double tapping, because you have to fully let go of the key to register another "key press" so im choosing the Corsair K70 over this one Razer Black Widow i saw at my local Frys.

for <$140 is there something i can get thats better than my choice?

I want
  • LED Backlighting for sure
  • Cherry MX Brown switches or Blues
  • Dont care about noise (o-ring or not doesnt matter)
  • Some sort of way to control volume ( a button -- or scroll wheel would be nice)
  • Tenkeyless

Can you suggest something that is in stock as well? Thanks
Edited by Aesthethc - 12/18/13 at 7:47am
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the ducky shine 3 could be an option as well. its not as 'gamery' looking as the corsair, but I would take a ducky over the corsair any day. I had a k95, and ended up returning it. It just didn't sit right with me ( litteraly ) the keyboard wobbled on a flat desk, and wanted something a bit more standard and not so 'gamer bro'

Also note if you ever want to replace the keycaps, the k70 uses non standard sizes, so some keys you may have trouble finding replacements.

Also the whole blue double tap thing is pretty blown out of proportion.

I sold my blues because of the issue, but I never had the issue during gaming.
you don't have to fully let up on blues to double tap, but the issue is that you can double tap and only get one audible 'click'
I can double tap on blues just as fast as i can on reds/blacks, but the one click to two inputs thing is what threw me off ( and only during work, never in gaming, because of the work I do and my keyboard set up ) ( my work set up, pressing "a" does one thing and pressing "aa" does a different thing, so you can see how that could be confusing to hear one click but you typed in "aa" )
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4 Microsoft Sidewinder x4s.
You'll have those keyboards last you at least 45 years.

All joking aside, Ducky shine.
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the ducky shine 3 could be an option as well. its not as 'gamery' looking as the corsair, but I would take a ducky over the corsair any day. I had a k95, and ended up returning it. It just didn't sit right with me ( litteraly ) the keyboard wobbled on a flat desk, and wanted something a bit more standard and not so 'gamer bro'

Also note if you ever want to replace the keycaps, the k70 uses non standard sizes, so some keys you may have trouble finding replacements.

Also the whole blue double tap thing is pretty blown out of proportion.

I sold my blues because of the issue, but I never had the issue during gaming.
you don't have to fully let up on blues to double tap, but the issue is that you can double tap and only get one audible 'click'
I can double tap on blues just as fast as i can on reds/blacks, but the one click to two inputs thing is what threw me off ( and only during work, never in gaming, because of the work I do and my keyboard set up ) ( my work set up, pressing "a" does one thing and pressing "aa" does a different thing, so you can see how that could be confusing to hear one click but you typed in "aa" )

I cant find any place that has a Ducky available. Can you help me? I live in the US.

Wait, let me get this straight.... I had this problem going into my local Frys and tried out these Cherry Blue switches by a Razer keyboard, and i noticed when i pressed a key (lets say "A"), there was a "halfway" point where i would feel the "click" and then the bottoming out portion where i feel the "bump". Then i noticed there was an "halfway range" between the "click" and the "bump".... and i believe some people were telling me that i would have to fully let go past the "click" in order to register another key press?

So what youre saying is that if i pressed it and heard the audible click once, i would still be able to quickly tap it multiple times like ("aa" or "aaaaa") with only hearing on audible click? Sometimes when im flying a helicopter in Battlefield 4 ill quickly tap "A" or "D" to get "fine tuning left and right pitching" when doing long range rocket attacks.... that is why im concerned. I feel like if i would have to fully let go of the key to register another key press id be annoyed of the click that would get in my way. But if i DIDNT have to fully let go, i wouldnt mind it as i usually barely let go of the key when im tapping it multiple times.

Think about like fine tuning a turn by repeatedly tapping A or D.... do i make sense?
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

Im about to buy this Corsair K70 keyboard with Cherry MX Brown Switches

http://www.corsair.com/us/gaming-peripherals/gaming-keyboards/vengeance-k70-fully-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown.html

I hear that blue switches are hard for double tapping, because you have to fully let go of the key to register another "key press" so im choosing the Corsair K70 over this one Razer Black Widow i saw at my local Frys.

for <$140 is there something i can get thats better than my choice?

I want
  • LED Backlighting for sure
  • Cherry MX Brown switches
  • Dont care about noise (o-ring or not doesnt matter)
  • Some sort of way to control volume ( a button -- or scroll wheel would be nice)

Can you suggest something that is in stock as well? Thanks

I have the C70 that you linked and I love it. It feels and preforms better than the Black Widow Ultimate (2012) that I loved. Also, the build quality of the keyboard is far superior to the BW, it just feels more sturdy.

Took me a little bit to get use to it as the feel is completely different but once I did I fell in love with it.

The independent back lighting is really nice as well and so easy to use.
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Right, the 'click' part of the switch is slightly higher than the actual contact to trigger the switch, so
you can type a key as many times as you want with only hearing the first click on the keypress.

the distance is very small, but after time, you can learn where the click point and acutation points are.

its not like you have to press the key, release, wait, then press again. it all happens very quick.

I don't have any blues anymore, but during gaming, I never had an issue with them, but my problem at work was that I was registering a key click with 1 input, so thats what threw me off. ( and it only has the double click issue when you're typing crazy fast )

I could play a game on blues just as good as I could on any mech keyboard

if you're worried, then go browns or another switch. i'm not trying to convince you to go blues, just informing. and trying to clear the stigma of blues and supposive 'gamer switches'
tons of people in the mech keyboard club love to play on blues.
http://www.overclock.net/t/538389/mechanical-keyboard-club-now-powered-by-koalas/19050#post_21414716

also, note mechanical keyboard actuate in the middle of the keypress, where rubber domes actuation point is at the very bottom of the keypress. You don't need to press the keys down all the way to trigger a key unlike rubber dome boards.
Edited by Jixr - 12/18/13 at 7:45am
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Right, the 'click' part of the switch is slightly higher than the actual contact to trigger the switch, so
you can type a key as many times as you want with only hearing the first click on the keypress.

the distance is very small, but after time, you can learn where the click point and acutation points are.

its not like you have to press the key, release, wait, then press again. it all happens very quick.

I don't have any blues anymore, but during gaming, I never had an issue with them, but my problem at work was that I was registering a key click with 1 input, so thats what threw me off. ( and it only has the double click issue when you're typing crazy fast )

I could play a game on blues just as good as I could on any mech keyboard

if you're worried, then go browns or another switch. i'm not trying to convince you to go blues, just informing. and trying to clear the stigma of blues and supposive 'gamer switches'
tons of people in the mech keyboard club love to play on blues.
http://www.overclock.net/t/538389/mechanical-keyboard-club-now-powered-by-koalas/19050#post_21414716

No im happy you are explaining this to me.

I might rethink this now, is there any LED Backlighted, tenkeyless, blue switch keyboard that you can suggest? I really liked the feeling of blues when typing. I just thought gaming would feel like gaming on a typewriter or something... you know ?

But from what youre explaining its kind of making me rethink things...
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the ducky shine 3 could be an option as well. its not as 'gamery' looking as the corsair, but I would take a ducky over the corsair any day. I had a k95, and ended up returning it. It just didn't sit right with me ( litteraly ) the keyboard wobbled on a flat desk, and wanted something a bit more standard and not so 'gamer bro'

Also note if you ever want to replace the keycaps, the k70 uses non standard sizes, so some keys you may have trouble finding replacements.

Also the whole blue double tap thing is pretty blown out of proportion.

I sold my blues because of the issue, but I never had the issue during gaming.
you don't have to fully let up on blues to double tap, but the issue is that you can double tap and only get one audible 'click'
I can double tap on blues just as fast as i can on reds/blacks, but the one click to two inputs thing is what threw me off ( and only during work, never in gaming, because of the work I do and my keyboard set up ) ( my work set up, pressing "a" does one thing and pressing "aa" does a different thing, so you can see how that could be confusing to hear one click but you typed in "aa" )
Thank you for this bit of information, I did not know this and now I have to look into the G710+ and see if that hold true on that keyboard as well.
 
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i LOVE blues for typing and general computer usage, and the louder sound does not bother me. I'm probably going to pick up another blue keyboard again soon ( or green, which are heavier blues ) (also the blues were very loud in an office work space, so that had influinced my reasoning to switch to a different switch color ) But in games, you're more focused on the screen action than worrying if your keyboard made one or two clicky sounds. There are good reasons to like blues in gaming, with the 'click' you can be sure you pressed a key where as some of the linear switches like reds and blacks, the only way you know if you pressed a key is if you bottom out all the way. In SC2 I much prefer blues to reds/blacks.

the razor BW tournament edition is a TKL led w/ blue switches.

I know cooler master is supposed to have a backlit version of their very popular Quickfire Rapid series come out sometime in early 2014.
There is a TKL ducky shine 3
( i personally don't care for backlit boards so I don't really know what all is out there. )

Frys has an awesome return policy, so you can always buy one, try it for a week or two, and if you like it, keep it, and if not, return it. I do it all the time with stuff from there.

You could also do what I did, make a custom board, I had all mx blues, except for W A S D were Mx reds. felt kinda weird when typing but loved it for gaming.
Edited by Jixr - 12/18/13 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by Jixr View Post

i LOVE blues for typing and general computer usage, and the louder sound does not bother me. I'm probably going to pick up another blue keyboard again soon ( or green, which are heavier blues ) (also the blues were very loud in an office work space, so that had influinced my reasoning to switch to a different switch color )

the razor BW tournament edition is a TKL led w/ blue switches.

I know cooler master is supposed to have a backlit version of their very popular Quickfire Rapid series come out sometime in early 2014.
There is a TKL ducky shine 3
( i personally don't care for backlit boards so I don't really know what all is out there. )

Frys has an awesome return policy, so you can always buy one, try it for a week or two, and if you like it, keep it, and if not, return it. I do it all the time with stuff from there.

When you say "led" you mean like the key letters glow up at night? and then backlight is just.... "background light" ? I think im okay with "led" as long as i can see the keys at night.... are the cooler master keyboards reliable? Im not familiar with their warranty, and i hear that the cooler master and rosewill keyboards have history of not being registered by the PC after months of use, forcing users to disconnect and reconnect their keyboards.... im scared of those kinds of things....

At least with Razer or Corsair my warranty wont be super sketch?

Or am i completely wrong? I dont know much, so feel free to correct me biggrin.gif
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