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My 7900GS won't perform... and I have no idea why

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So. Just today I got a brand new PCI XFX 7900GS in the mail. I installed it and everything seemed to be going great until I started playing some games.... I notice in GTA San Andreas, the framerate repeatedly stutters, badly, and this is with low graphics settings. I tried playing Far Cry and I noticed that you can't see through the water, even with every setting maxed out. When I use the configuration utility for Far Cry it will say my overall system spec is "very high" however when I hit autodetect on the video section it defaults to all "lows." I get good frame rates in Far Cry (even with all settings max!), but something is not right here...

I have:
-a 530W Fortron PSU. Should be plenty of juice. There is 1 molex connector on the PCI card, and it is indeed connected
-installed the newest version of Direct X
-installed new nVidia drivers (while separately uninstalling the previous ones). the versions I tried are 93.71 (newest on guru3d) and the ones which came included on CD with the card
-checked my mobo bios and confirmed that PCI express is set as the primary graphics interface

factors I am suspicious of:
1. my motherboard... it is AGP and PCI express both. It is a strange model. Perhaps my motherboard is just retarded or something. But it >SHOULD WORK<!
2. The reason I bought a new card is because my BFG 6800 Ultra OC (note, AGP card) kept giving me an error message whenever I started windows. It said:



I no longer get this message now that I have the new card. Incidentally I tested the old 6800ultra in a different machine and I got the same message, so I think the card is bad... I'm going to RMA it.

So, does anyone have any ideas why I am not getting the performance I should??? There is no reason why GTA should be all choppy at low resolution, and back when Far Cry used to run great on my old card I remember the water definitely being see though... the 7900GS should be a slight upgrade in performance compared to a 6800 ultra... what is going wrong here?!?!?! Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I'm guessing your power supply kinda sucks

buy a better brand like OCZ or tangan or seasonic or silverstone
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I'm guessing your power supply kinda sucks

buy a better brand like OCZ or tangan or seasonic or silverstone
Oops, actually I am using a Fortron Source 530watt... (I need to update my profile, doing now).... which is a very nice unit. So I don't believe it is the PSUs fault. I'm almost certain it's some kind of obscure software BS that I've never heard of before. It must be!
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post #4 of 37
check if the molex connector is worn out, bend the little metal sleeves back with a small screwdriver (with the system turned off, of course...)
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check if the molex connector is worn out, bend the little metal sleeves back with a small screwdriver (with the system turned off, of course...)
thanks, I will check that right now. I am also going to try switching to a different power supply if that doesn't work.... BRB!
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I'd be really suprised if an FSP PSU went out actually... Check the plugs as suggested earlier and use driver cleaner pro and clean out your old drivers and new ones and then do a fresh reinstall.
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I'd be really suprised if an FSP PSU went out actually... Check the plugs as suggested earlier and use driver cleaner pro and clean out your old drivers and new ones and then do a fresh reinstall.
I agree. I checked the cable, it looks a-okay. I switched to a different molex to be sure. And now I am also trying using the adapter that converts a PCI express power connector to a molex type so you can connect that to your card. So far nothing is working... I will try driver cleaner next. Stay tuned and cross your fingers for me
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use driver cleaner pro and clean out your old drivers and new ones and then do a fresh reinstall.
Argh. I uninstalled my nVidia drivers, ran driver cleaner pro, restarted and ran cleaner pro again, restarted once more and reinstalled new nVidia drivers. Still no change. The water is messed up and GTA runs like crap. At this point a steam of profanity is flowing from my lips and I am wondering why I did not just buy a PS3 or an Xbox so I could actually play games, instead of wasting 6 hours at a time pulling out my hair and still not having any games that run correctly. What am I doing wrong......??????????????????????? I am so frustrated

edit: I also have a second hard drive which I did a reformat, fresh install of XP SP2, installed the factory drivers right off the bat and I installed Far Cry to test and I still get the same result there. Maybe I am missing some obscure option in the bios or something....??
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post #9 of 37
Im thinking the cable is faulty. I opened my rig up once and forgot to put back the pci-e power cord into my card and thats the error it gave me.
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Im thinking the cable is faulty. I opened my rig up once and forgot to put back the pci-e power cord into my card and thats the error it gave me.
Unfortunately, I highly doubt it. I just put in a different PSU, a 600W Enermax. Right now the only things that are connected is the vid card and 1 IDE drive, that's IT. And I still get these awful framerates. I just want to blow stuff up.
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