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Hi everyone, I am going to make a computer for my husband but I need help! I have done this one time before for my sister but it was a long time ago and I forgot most of it (plus everything changed )! I have been looking around here the past few hours and I know I need to get a Intel core 2 duo, but I also think I want to be able to upgrade the quad core a year or two down the road, if possible. I don't know anything about overclock it but I was told to come here to ask, this is where you can get good advice from the best! So ok. Here is what I need:

1] a nice looking (but cheap ) case that can fit at least 3-4 hard drives (also that can fit decent power supply and graphics cards but not enormous LOL!)
2] a good power supply (enough to work a direct x 10 card down the line?)
3] an intel core 2 duo chip with a matching motherboard to get good speeds without overclock (that can upgrade to the quad core later hopefully)
4] graphics card (don't need that huge one yet that everyone is talking about, we only play games like civilization but maybe if we have a good computer i can buy oblivon (sp) and play new games coming out?
5] good ram, seems like 2 gig is the right amount (but I won't overclock it)
6] dvd/cd burner drive (want to burn dvd's and cds both at good speeds)

already have the monitor and hard drives.

ok also since I don't know about how to overclock so I won't be doing that for the RAM, but I have read about it here and I may be interested in the computer chip at some point. If when you give me advice if you can tell me if I could overclock with just the normal fans and heat things? Maybe just a slight overclock boost?

Ok guys well thats it, please help me out! It is not a rush on this but any help I would really appreciate it!! Thank you in advance!!
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One word= NewEgg
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1] a nice looking (but cheap ) case that can fit at least 3-4 hard drives (also that can fit decent power supply and graphics cards but not enormous LOL!)
Coolermaster Centurion 5, either with window or not. $49.99 max.

2] a good power supply (enough to work a direct x 10 card down the line?)
SILVERSTONE SST-ST50EF ATX12V 500W $87.50

3] an intel core 2 duo chip with a matching motherboard to get good speeds without overclock (that can upgrade to the quad core later hopefully)
I would recommend the E6400 for $223.00. A bit faster than the E6300, and more than capable for the goals you have with this computer. Given your Quad Core upgrade plans I think an E6600 or higher is a bit of a waste of money right now. The E6400 is more than capable to carry you over for a year or two.
As motherboard, I'd recommend the Asus P5B-E. All the capabilities you need, including RAID capabilities on the southbridge, and a nice, solid board for $150.99

4] graphics card (don't need that huge one yet that everyone is talking about, we only play games like civilization but maybe if we have a good computer i can buy oblivon (sp) and play new games coming out?
ATI Radeon X1950Pro for $189.99. Very good card for not too much money.

5] good ram, seems like 2 gig is the right amount (but I won't overclock it)
Yup, do get 2GB. Here is a nice kit of DDR2 800 for $224.99

6] dvd/cd burner drive (want to burn dvd's and cds both at good speeds)
Plenty of choices for around $30 or so. Here is a NEC

This will total up to about $956 or so. Let me know if that was the cost you did anticipate.

already have the monitor and hard drives.

ok also since I don't know about how to overclock so I won't be doing that for the RAM, but I have read about it here and I may be interested in the computer chip at some point. If when you give me advice if you can tell me if I could overclock with just the normal fans and heat things? Maybe just a slight overclock boost?

yes, you can overclock with stock fan and so on, but limited. I have an E6600 under stock cooling right now, and it's overclocked from 2.4GHz to 3.0GHz (20%). Do realize that RAM generally overclocks together with the CPU, which is not a big deal. With the RAM I picked, you have some headroom, so a modest overclock is not a problem. If you plan a more substantial overclock, DDR2 800 RAM is recommended, which will run for about $30 more.
    
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E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
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Windows install....
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
1] a nice looking (but cheap ) case that can fit at least 3-4 hard drives (also that can fit decent power supply and graphics cards but not enormous LOL!)
Coolermaster Centurion 5, either with window or not. $49.99 max.

2] a good power supply (enough to work a direct x 10 card down the line?)
SILVERSTONE SST-ST50EF ATX12V 500W $87.50

3] an intel core 2 duo chip with a matching motherboard to get good speeds without overclock (that can upgrade to the quad core later hopefully)
I would recommend the E6400 for $223.00. A bit faster than the E6300, and more than capable for the goals you have with this computer. Given your Quad Core upgrade plans I think an E6600 or higher is a bit of a waste of money right now. The E6400 is more than capable to carry you over for a year or two.
As motherboard, I'd recommend the Asus P5B-E. All the capabilities you need, including RAID capabilities on the southbridge, and a nice, solid board for $150.99

4] graphics card (don't need that huge one yet that everyone is talking about, we only play games like civilization but maybe if we have a good computer i can buy oblivon (sp) and play new games coming out?
ATI Radeon X1950Pro for $189.99. Very good card for not too much money.

5] good ram, seems like 2 gig is the right amount (but I won't overclock it)
Yup, do get 2GB. Here is a nice kit of DDR2 800 for $224.99

6] dvd/cd burner drive (want to burn dvd's and cds both at good speeds)
Plenty of choices for around $30 or so. Here is a NEC

This will total up to about $956 or so. Let me know if that was the cost you did anticipate.


Thank you Chozart for your quick and helpful reply! That is right about my price range I will take your advice and buy the products you mentioned, of course from the newegg web site fstfrddy! If anyone out there has any other ideas or alternatives to Chozart's line up, please I can use all the input you guys can give me!
Ihatethedukes -- what do you mean windows install? It will be a windows xp pro system, upgrade to vista as it gets more support (and less $$ LOL).

Thanks again!
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Chozart's build looks more or less perfect again

The x1950Pro is indeed a nice card, mine runs Oblivion rather smoothly at high resolution and high detail settings
    
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Quote:
1] a nice looking (but cheap ) case that can fit at least 3-4 hard drives (also that can fit decent power supply and graphics cards but not enormous LOL!)
2] a good power supply (enough to work a direct x 10 card down the line?)
3] an intel core 2 duo chip with a matching motherboard to get good speeds without overclock (that can upgrade to the quad core later hopefully)
4] graphics card (don't need that huge one yet that everyone is talking about, we only play games like civilization but maybe if we have a good computer i can buy oblivon (sp) and play new games coming out?
5] good ram, seems like 2 gig is the right amount (but I won't overclock it)
6] dvd/cd burner drive (want to burn dvd's and cds both at good speeds)
1.Centurion 530 or 532 (532 has quick release drive bay cages while the 530 doesn't) is a great case if you like the looks, 3 sideways mounts for hard drives).
2. OCZ GameXStream 600W/700W
3.E6300 or E6600 (I belive the latter is $130 at Newegg or something)
4.7900GS is meant to be good but cheap
5.Whichever takes your fancy from a good maker
6. I gotta Pioneer DVR111-DBK which is awesome
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Western Digital 500GB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Viewsonic VA2213w 
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Western Digital 500GB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Viewsonic VA2213w 
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post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by prosser13 View Post
1.Centurion 530 or 532 (532 has quick release drive bay cages while the 530 doesn't) is a great case if you like the looks, 3 sideways mounts for hard drives).
2. OCZ GameXStream 600W/700W
3.E6300 or E6600 (I belive the latter is $130 at Newegg or something)
4.7900GS is meant to be good but cheap
5.Whichever takes your fancy from a good maker
6. I gotta Pioneer DVR111-DBK which is awesome
OK everyone thanks for your help so far! It is going well so thank you! So well I already ordered the case and power supply that Chozart advised (thank you!!), now I have two issues...

1) Should I buy the ATI Radeon X1950Pro or the 7900GS
2) Chip: E6300 ($189), E6400 ($222) or E6600 ($319)? Seems like the price has gone down ~$5 from yesterday on newegg, maybe I should give it a few weeks? hmmm


OK well I want to thank you all so far for the advice, I gave you all Rep+! :
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If you can afford the X1950Pro I would go with that.

Whichever you can afford - they'll all overclock well, but the higher the multi the easier it will be to overclock higher
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Western Digital 500GB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Viewsonic VA2213w 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital 500GB Pioneer DVD-RW Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Viewsonic VA2213w 
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Heres a good read on best vid cards for the money

They actually ranked the 1950pro and 7900gs as a TIE!
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/...for_the_money/
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Intel i7 950 Gigabyte GA-X58-USB3 X58 ATI HD 4850 4GB (2 x 2GB) Mushkin DDR3 1333 
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