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Guru3d tests, while valid, can't be taken seriously. They don't show oc/volts tests, or 20-30 mins continous loop in case, not open bench. You can add at least 10c + on that for realistic measure. Also 290/290x is hotter and more power hungry when oc, so the poor cooler takes beating.

One thing we should take into consideration, is that his card might be bad....
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It's a damn sham these high temps, because the 780Ti version has stellar temps: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_780_ti_gaming_review,8.html

Can everyone please state how much they paid?

the 780ti chip runs cooler over all i believe when comparing the companies that make the same cooler for both amd and nvidia, just how the chip is i guess lol. Except the asus dcu2 for the 780ti, it apparently sucked in reviews =\
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post #53 of 114
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It's a damn sham these high temps, because the 780Ti version has stellar temps: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_780_ti_gaming_review,8.html

Can everyone please state how much they paid?

nope, that temp was just for the core. they did not show the vrms' temps, which can reach 100C.ohno-smiley02.gif. check over at the 780 Ti club and you'll see.

edit: post 5746 . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1438886/official-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-owners-club/5740
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the 780ti chip runs cooler over all i believe when comparing the companies that make the same cooler for both amd and nvidia, just how the chip is i guess lol. Except the asus dcu2 for the 780ti, it apparently sucked in reviews =\

I wouldn't say that overall the 780ti is the cooler chip, I mean reference vs reference definitely and that's because the AMD reference solution as you know is absolutely terrible.
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For me that looks like a badly mounted cooler, temps are getting higher, and fan speed is not really effect it, really seems like the cooler is not contacting the gpu as it should.
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Thanks smile.gif

You can scroll with gpu-z, the sensors are on bottom. Open 2 instance of it.

Set max reading on 1 gpu-z instance for core temp, and max reading for vrm temp on second. Let it loop for at least 15 mins, and post the results thumb.gif

P.S. Do the same for the clocks.

There is no more sensors available. I'll show you. Maybe it's not available on this card?


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For me that looks like a badly mounted cooler, temps are getting higher, and fan speed is not really effect it, really seems like the cooler is not contacting the gpu as it should.

I think the problem is the weak fans on the card,(they don't move enough air) as they won't even spin up to audible levels even at 100% I can barely hear it. I was able to bench at 1200/1350 with the case open and an external fan blowing on the card. So basically it seems like a good card and cooler, just epic fail on the fans which won't keep it cool. I'm seriously thinking of trying to return to newegg and get a 780ti.

Oh, and to answer the question listed earlier, I paid $580 for it.... from newegg. Only another $90 for a 780ti at this point.
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Yes, the rpm are the problem here, not much you can do. Maybe but i don't think so, the heat sink is not properly attached?
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Yes, the rpm are the problem here, not much you can do. Maybe but i don't think so, the heat sink is not properly attached?

IF the heatsink wasn't properly attached, it wouldn't cool down with an external fan. Just opening the case side doesn't make a difference, but the external fan did.

Also, I may end up keeping the card, Stable at 1100/1350 and +30 power +0.12v Temps leveled out at 88% with fans at 100% (I think they stop at 98%) It really is able to do what they advertize (1007mhz) and then some and it's silent. Can't hear the thing. I'll call newegg and find out if it'll cost me a %15 restocking fee which would be like $87 plus the shiping, another 15, plus the $90 difference for the 780ti. All that would end up costing me like almost $200 when it's all said and done. Which doesn't equal to better performance really, and just lower temps. SO with restocking fee's I'll just keep what I have. If no restocking fee I'll trade up this week.
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It's a damn sham these high temps, because the 780Ti version has stellar temps: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_780_ti_gaming_review,8.html
The GTX 780 TI has less power draw (not TDP, actual power draw) and more die area to dissipate heat so of course it has lower temps. That's like saying the GTX 680 runs cooler than the HD7970.

Looks like MSI screwed up badly with the R9 290 series "Gaming" cards. frown.gif

Now we must wait for Powercolor /Club3D and HIS , plus Gigabyte Rev2 (not much hope there) and XFX (also not much hope there). I guess all the Nvidia vendors/board partners were lazy and reused their GK110 coolers optimized for ~250W TDP , that's the only explanation for how similar the ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte coolers are to their Nvidia counterparts. rolleyes.gif

If you look at AMD's board partner list on their BF4 page it lists:

ASUS -- also Nvidia
Club3D
Gigabyte -- also Nvidia
HIS
MSI -- also Nvidia
Sapphire --- current champ with their Tri-X
TUL/PowerColor
XFX
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