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Right got the FK coming tomorrow, once I get it I will put it on either 1150 or 2300, as for windows I use 8.1 will I need to adjust the acceleration to make it feel like more like 1800 dpi that I'm used to? Otherwise it will feel either too fast or slow, I assume I will have to adjust sensitivity in games as well. I looked at the link you provided above and will try and use this in game. Bit of a noob at all the dpi stuff normally just use 1800dpi and adjust in game.
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Did you update the g500s firmware? It's pretty unusable until that's done.
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Did you update the g500s firmware? It's pretty unusable until that's done.

I did indeed, however once I have used an optical sensor lazer just doesn't have that 1-1 feel and my accuracy is much worse.
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Right got the FK coming tomorrow, once I get it I will put it on either 1150 or 2300, as for windows I use 8.1 will I need to adjust the acceleration to make it feel like more like 1800 dpi that I'm used to? Otherwise it will feel either too fast or slow, I assume I will have to adjust sensitivity in games as well. I looked at the link you provided above and will try and use this in game. Bit of a noob at all the dpi stuff normally just use 1800dpi and adjust in game.

Use 2300 CPI and 1000 Hz and convert your in-game sensitivity to match what it was before at 1800 by using mouse-sensitivity.com's calculator.

For example If I was using 1.0 sens at 400 CPI and I switch to 800 CPI I would be using 0.5 sens for the same cm/360. Because there is no limit to movement speed in raw input games, I just use 5670 CPI on my Sensei and then adjust the in-game sensitivity super low so that I can get extreme granularity. I know most 60cm/360 players don't use anything over 400 CPI, but I do in raw input games...because I CAN. And I like to take advantage of the smoother movement. It feels very organic to me.
Edited by metal571 - 1/9/14 at 12:00pm
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Well I received the Zowie FK and I really like the mouse, it is really light and the scroll wheel is great for first person shooters and the like, also the optical sensor is very good. I am currently using the mouse at 1150DPI as I am finding it a little high on 2300DPI on the desktop. All the buttons also feel great on the mouse, however the downside for me with this is that it is smaller width wise than the Logitech G400s and does feel a little small in my hand.

However I am definitely going to stick with this mouse for now as it does not hurt my hand as much as the G400s and wait until the Corsair M45 comes out, I know that this shape fits my hand well as I have said I have large palms and smaller fingers and the M40-45 M60-65 have that wide palm base.

Thanks to everyone for the help
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Well I received the Zowie FK and I really like the mouse, it is really light and the scroll wheel is great for first person shooters and the like, also the optical sensor is very good. I am currently using the mouse at 1150DPI as I am finding it a little high on 2300DPI on the desktop. All the buttons also feel great on the mouse, however the downside for me with this is that it is smaller width wise than the Logitech G400s and does feel a little small in my hand.

However I am definitely going to stick with this mouse for now as it does not hurt my hand as much as the G400s and wait until the Corsair M45 comes out, I know that this shape fits my hand well as I have said I have large palms and smaller fingers and the M40-45 M60-65 have that wide palm base.

Thanks to everyone for the help

I would use 2300 and 1000 Hz then set Windows to 4/11. That's the same effective CPI as the 1150 step but with no input lag since the other steps that aren't 2300 are non-native and cause some lag. Enjoy.

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I would use 2300 and 1000 Hz then set Windows to 4/11. That's the same effective CPI as the 1150 step but with no input lag since the other steps that aren't 2300 are non-native and cause some lag. Enjoy.

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Thanks for the information, maybe I am getting this wrong but does that mean that if I put the windows step to 5/11 that it would be closer to 1800 cpi which is what I would normally use but without the lag due to the 2300cpi default of the mouse?
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Thanks for the information, maybe I am getting this wrong but does that mean that if I put the windows step to 5/11 that it would be closer to 1800 cpi which is what I would normally use but without the lag due to the 2300cpi default of the mouse?

That would be 0.75*2300 = 1725 CPI. However, the 5/11 step is inconsistent in tracking and will not feel right. I would use 4/11. 5/11 doesn't uniformly discard counts from the mouse. For example, if 1s are counts and 6/11 gives: 11111111 for 8 counts, 5/11 gives: 11101110 discarding every 4th count which wont' feel right. 4/11 will give you: 10101010 skipping every other count, effectively halving your CPI. I would stick with 2300 CPI and 4/11 with 1000 Hz, then adjust your sensitivity higher numerically by about 56% in your game from what you were using at 1800 CPI. (1800/1150 = 0.56).

If your game supports raw input, USE it. There's no reason not to use the full 2300 CPI of the mouse and then reduce your in game sensitivity and bypass windows entirely. I know you're used to a certain CPI but in reality a higher CPI and a lower in game sensitivity only helps you here, as it increases the granularity of movements in FPS games. I actually play on 5670 CPI on my Sensei right now at a very low in game sensitivity to give me 60cm/360 just because the mouse performs exactly the same at all CPI steps, so I just use the highest native one with raw input.
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That would be 0.75*2300 = 1725 CPI. However, the 5/11 step is inconsistent in tracking and will not feel right. I would use 4/11. 5/11 doesn't uniformly discard counts from the mouse. For example, if 1s are counts and 6/11 gives: 11111111 for 8 counts, 5/11 gives: 11101110 discarding every 4th count which wont' feel right. 4/11 will give you: 10101010 skipping every other count, effectively halving your CPI. I would stick with 2300 CPI and 4/11 with 1000 Hz, then adjust your sensitivity higher numerically by about 56% in your game from what you were using at 1800 CPI. (1800/1150 = 0.56)

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I love my Naga 2014 if you can deal with all the buttons its nice and chunky and works great with my palm grip.

Just use the first 6 buttons and pretend the back 6 aren't there.
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