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Is the Revolt (Pre-Built) a valid option in your world?? with poll

Poll Results: Would you recommend the revolt under any circumstances

 
  • 27% (5)
    Yes (With Reason)
  • 55% (10)
    No (With Reason)
  • 16% (3)
    Mixed feeling (No but i like this point) in this case state the point
18 Total Votes  
post #1 of 14
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In the past few months i was in the market for a perfect ITX build that can travel with me 2-4 times a year (Internationally) so i started looking at cases like the node 304,prodigy,SG05.... ETC while the prodigy is the most perfect spec wise it was a huge slop to carry around the airport and i didnt like the looks of the SG05 which made the node 304 a perfect dream case (Holds ATX PSU and full size GPU with my TPC 812 on the CPU)

Then i saw the Asus impact IV and oh my god i fell in love wubsmiley.gif it was better than most full ATX mobos and was the only ITX mobo with Wireless+Sound card+GPU combo with out compromising one of those for the sake of the other, but i discovered that the sound card was mediocre to the best which was a disappointment for me.
but today while i was bored i went on xoticpc's site and tried to max a desktop on their site (yea we all did that when we were young) then jumped from site to site then remembered the revolt which i saw a couple of months ago and went to ibuypower's site and looked it up and what i found made me think that this might be a valid option one day in some circumstances

so i made a $1535+Shipping build and it had these parts

Case:Revolt Multi color LED
CPU: i7 4770k
Mobo: Asrock z87e itx
GPU:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) 1866mhz ADATA XPG V2
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
PSU: FSP 1U 80 Plus Gold
SSD: 128 GB ADATA SX900
HDD: 1TB 32mb cache 7200RPM 6Gbs
ODD:Slot Load DVD
OS:Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit


You get these as freebies so i said its better to mention them for sake of fairness

[FREE] Thermaltake eSPORTS CHALLENGER Gaming Keyboard($49 Value)
[FREE] - McAfee Antivirus PLUS 2014FREE with any System ($49 Value)
[FREE] - GG Cruiser PC200-I Headset /W 4-Pole and 57mm speaker ($29 Value)

Not best items but they are something rolleyes.gif

Not a bad build for the price actually here is the Newegg counterpart of the same build

$1475+Shipping

Case:Fractal Design Node 304
CPU: i7 4770k
Mobo: Asrock z87e itx
GPU:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) 1866mhz CORSAIR Vengeance
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
PSU: FSP 1U 80 Plus Gold
SSD: 128 GB ADATA SX900
HDD: 1TB 64mb cache 7200RPM 6Gbs
ODD:Slot Load DVD
OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit - OEM

The differences between the two builds will be 60$ + the case + the after market of the GTX 770

But looking closely will reveal that:
1-you can get a good aftermarket cooler on the GTX 770 as 90% ibuypower will deliver stock GPUs
2-you can get a better PSU for the same price for the newegg price (Future upgradability with higher wattage, GTX 780 maybe??)
3-you can get a better SSD like the samsung evo for the same price
4-you have better flexibility with the newegg build
5-better warranty with the newegg build because most of the time ibuypower will blame the user for any damages if the case was opened
6- almost forgot if you take a little more time picking the parts you can get better parts for the same price or get the cost lower by a couple of bucks from newegg

But if you look at it from the ibuypower side:
1-best bang for the buck pre-built ITX machine
2-great first time pc gamer build because of size and they dont need to put it togther
3-the case size and form factor makes it very appealing
4-comes with a gaming keyboard and headset (Oh boy you know how new gamers gonna cry of joy when they see them biggrin.gif)
5-easier parts support from one source
6-if you are like my friend who cant build a pc and is scared to even try it and no one you know that lives close by can build you one then you would go to a shop which will charge you around 50-100 for building it for you (this happened dont ask) then that makes the price difference 0$


And if any of the points mentioned above^ applies to you or a friend of yours then these points are useless to you
Quote:
1-you can get a good aftermarket cooler on the GTX 770 as 90% ibuypower will deliver stock GPUs
2-you can get a better PSU for the same price for the newegg price (Future upgradability with higher wattage, GTX 780 maybe??)
3-you can get a better SSD like the samsung evo for the same price
4-you have better flexibility with the newegg build
5-better warranty with the newegg build because most of the time ibuypower will blame the user for any damages if the case was opened
6- almost forgot if you take a little more time picking the parts you can get better parts for the same price or get the cost lower by a couple of bucks from newegg


After writing all of this i reached a point in which i questioned my self and why was i doing this? but remembered that today every one is trying to show of their steambox or itx build to make it appealing to new PC gamers (And to say the truth i was shocked that the price difference between the pre-built and the parts of the same make and model was very small) so yea the question is


Would you recommend the revolt under any circumstances yes or no? (Mention reason for both please)

And i forgot please KEEP IT AS CIVIL AS POSSIBLE
Edited by Awsan - 12/30/13 at 1:07pm
     
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post #2 of 14
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Looks like no one is interested :/
     
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post #3 of 14
Honestly I dont see it as worth it. I recently built a pc and I checked ibuypower price of my pc keeping parts as similar in price aa possible when I couldnt find my exact part, and it came out to a $600 difference.

My last pc was from ibuypower, I got stuck with watercooling that was far too loud (fan was about 40db) and a motherboard that cost too much considering it ran too hot and was horrible for overclocking (biased against msi now)
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post #4 of 14
well its cheaper to build it yourself yeah its only a $60 difference but that money saved can go towards something else i dont think the freebies are actually worth it other then maybe the keyboard smile.gif
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Honestly I think you can make it better, im sure the build you have now can cost far less than the ibuypower if you looked in the right places smile.gif
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post #6 of 14
I'd say don't do it. They truly are horrible with support. It took a friend of mine a whole year to get his system replaced after the PSU that was given him to him blew out his system after only two days within owning it. An absolute nightmare. Above all you get the flexibility of choosing your own parts if you go with a custom build; personally I would opt for that more than anything.
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post #7 of 14
Personally, no. When you purchase a pre-built system there are lots of things I don't like, here's a short list why I myself don't buy pre-built.

1: Price, It's always more expensive to buy pre-built as they want to charge for making it and shipping and most of the people buying pre-built don't know what they're paying for so they charge more because they know most consumers won't notice that it's overpriced.

2: Customizability ( is that even a word?) anyways, when you buy pre-built they will nearly always choose reference things such as reference graphics cards, no custom coolers, and H87/H77 motherboards. When you build it yourself you can choose your parts yourself such as non-reference graphics cards, motherboards made for overclocking, and cpu coolers other from the stock intel one.

3: Building it yourself is fun and makes you proud of yourself that the system you are using was built by yourself.

4: As you assembly the parts you learn about computers. You learn about everything. I mean before I built my first PC I didn't know what a motherboard was, what overclocking was, that you could run 2 graphics cards and you get really interrested in hardware like myself.
post #8 of 14
I would recommend the Revolt if I was geographically separated from a friend who wanted a machine like that. Also the good thing with the prebuilt is that there would be customer service if any problems and questions arise.

Personally, I would rather build it myself due to manufacturer and aesthetic bias, and component quality preferences.

PC building is therapeutic like wood working to me, so I would want to spend the few hours doing it myself.
post #9 of 14
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Yea i will never buy one for my use but i might recommend a machine like that to a friend who cant/wont build his own machine and cant get any one to build it for him
and i think its one of the best prices Pre-Built systems as its a compact mItx
     
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post #10 of 14
I think calling it a Vendor system might be better.
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