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Agreed, AMD loves to make reference coolers that are barely adequate.

At 100% fan speed the reference cooler can keep the thing below 80C at load. Most say it's loud, but I think it's pretty epic. biggrin.gif

The point of a reference cooler is to be barely adequate, and cheap. Those on water cooling, such as myself, like to pay the least possible for a hunk of metal and plastic that's not going to be used except for initial testing.
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At 100% fan speed the reference cooler can keep the thing below 80C at load. Most say it's loud, but I think it's pretty epic. biggrin.gif

The point of a reference cooler is to be barely adequate, and cheap. Those on water cooling, such as myself, like to pay the least possible for a hunk of metal and plastic that's not going to be used except for initial testing.

People who run water-cooled graphics cards represent a tiny portion of the overall consumer base.

AMD's been in the business of producing reference hair dryers for quite a while. nVidia's done a little better job on that front, but I'm just not a fan of turbine coolers. (No pun intended) AMD could take a page out of nVidia's book in this regard, but it would be a little harder for them to win price point battles if they did.

The GTX 560 Ti had my favorite reference HSF to date - Radial fan, 3 heat-pipes, PCB heatsink, well-designed shroud, great fan, and most-importantly it was quiet - all the good bits. I'd like to see some scaled-up designs for higher-TDP parts. (For reference models, that is)
    
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Just wanted to comment ,that I followed the link here to read the article ,and was shocked by the ugly comments from what seems like some potty-mouthed ,diaper wearing teeny boppers,cursing each other out ,acusing one another of AMD /Nvidia ,fan-boyism,and bashing PC gaming vs. consoles,and I don't even know what they were fighting about.Made my head spin. Not the kind of civilized behavior that is refreshing to immerse in here at OCN.
Where you been the last couple of years? that's the the usual ocn stuff lol
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post #104 of 110

Title for this Chip might be :


 


AMD Radeon R9 295


AMD Radeon R9 290 XT


AMD Radeon R9 290 XTX


AMD Radeon R9 290 Ultra Edition


AMD Radeon R9 290 Hawaii Edition


 


Problem is that AMD has to break New world Record for Power Consumption.The World Record is belong to AMD Radeon HD7990!!


Edited by Xuper - 1/9/14 at 1:25am
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Title for this Chip might be :



 



AMD Radeon R9 295



AMD Radeon R9 290 XT



AMD Radeon R9 290 XTX



AMD Radeon R9 290 Ultra Edition



AMD Radeon R9 290 Hawaii Edition



 



Problem is that AMD has to break New world Record for Power Consumption.The World Record is belong to AMD Radeon HD7990!!

Ares and non reference 7990 would like to have a word with you.

Also it is fairly equal in perf/w to Nvidia's offerings on a good cooler.

As for the naming some of those are already in use it will be at xtx and ultra I suppose.
I would love 2 full hawaii's on a single card being named "295" like in the glory days.
Edited by maarten12100 - 1/9/14 at 1:24am
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Didn't LinusTechTips do a Watercooled comparison and found that even watercooled performance didn't go up by much? Think it was down to the Non Ref PCB

Nothing to do with reference PCB, just silicon lottery. Reference PCB is more then enough for ~ around 1250/1700, which is far less then they had.
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He does have a bad overclocker, true. But for all the talk he does on him presenting overclocked numbers compared to the hundreds of stock clock reviews, his overclocking of the 290 and the 780 was very different- different power limits, no overvolting on the 290 etc. I hate to say it but I can't trust his GPU reviews anymore.

Linus is clearly favoring Nvidia, you might say conspiracy theory, but i think they picked up worst overclocker 290 to "proof" that even with water that card is "slower" then GTX780, which is pretty much nonsense, that channel has far more Nvidia fanboys as subs then AMD, so you get the idea.
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lol, he used the stock bios on the 780, basically limiting it to 1.187v and 106% power target making it trottle city, the 290 throttles due to heat, the 780 throttles due to nvidia being a bunch of morons on stock bios, nvidia favoritism my backside. thats just what the results were, had the results been flipped would it be amd favoritism?
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Nope it wouldn't be, but i would easily noticed bad overclocker in the 780, but pretty much both 290X and 29, they got where pathetic overclockers, and that goes in line with 2 more YT channels which favor Nvidia, now you might think that's not the case, or it was just an coincidence all of them to get bad overclockers....but i think not. In short no use to continue this discussion because it would be inappropriate, so lets move along.

P.S. GTX780 even on the most basic stock settings will oc to ~ 1200 with no real problems, if the card is decent bin that is.
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People who run water-cooled graphics cards represent a tiny portion of the overall consumer base.

AMD's been in the business of producing reference hair dryers for quite a while. nVidia's done a little better job on that front, but I'm just not a fan of turbine coolers. (No pun intended) AMD could take a page out of nVidia's book in this regard, but it would be a little harder for them to win price point battles if they did.

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People shouldn't have very high expectations of reference coolers, especially from a value oriented brand like AMD. Their only responsibility is to make sure it works. Past that, it's the consumer's fault for buying a reference card instead of something better.
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