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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

That doesn't make sense, the static refresh rate scaler has been replaced by the Gsync component. Refresh rate is determined via gpu horsepower and displayport max bandwidth (which equates to 177hz)

This.

G-Sync monitors should not be labeled with a refresh rate, since G-sync is by definition a VARIABLE refreshrate solution. Any PANEL within a g-sync monitor should be capable of at least 144hz since that is the specification from Nvidia for the G-Sync technology.
post #112 of 8206
Is this a PB278Q with G-Sync?
post #113 of 8206
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Originally Posted by rcoolb2002 View Post

This.

G-Sync monitors should not be labeled with a refresh rate, since G-sync is by definition a VARIABLE refreshrate solution. Any PANEL within a g-sync monitor should be capable of at least 144hz since that is the specification from Nvidia for the G-Sync technology.

doh.gif Please this is just wrong. If the panel cant do120hz then a module cant change that. Gsync is just the opposite of vsync.You let your gpu to control draw calls of the monitor
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post #114 of 8206
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doh.gif Please this is just wrong. If the panel cant do120hz then a module cant change that. Gsync is just the opposite of vsync.You let your gpu to control draw calls of the monitor

can you explain in detail why some panels can't do 120hz?

edit: AFAIK, 60hz refresh is the result of max responsiveness without the ability to strobe. On panels that strobing is present, 120hz is usually achievable as long as the strobe is quick enough. It would legitimately be a waste for any manufacturer to produce a Gsync monitor without the ability to flick pixels on-and-off allowing >60hz

edit2: essentially what was said below lol
Edited by fleetfeather - 1/2/14 at 4:28am
post #115 of 8206
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doh.gif Please this is just wrong. If the panel cant do120hz then a module cant change that. Gsync is just the opposite of vsync.You let your gpu to control draw calls of the monitor

I didnt say that shoving a g-sync module in a crappy panel would give it 120 HZ. I said that a G-Sync monitor SHOULD NOT have a panel that is not 144hz capable.

What I am saying is that the G-sync modules supports variable refresh from 30-144hz, it would be stupid to bundle it with a "60hz" capable PANEL, and I do not believe the manufacturers will do so.

Edit: I'm clearly talking about the 1080p arena here.
Edited by rcoolb2002 - 1/2/14 at 4:29am
post #116 of 8206
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can you explain in detail why some panels can't do 120hz?

The response time of the actual pixels used in the display. "Low quality" pixels have a slower response time.
post #117 of 8206
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I didnt say that shoving a g-sync module in a crappy panel would give it 120 HZ. I said that a G-Sync monitor SHOULD NOT have a panel that is not 144hz capable.

What I am saying is that the G-sync modules supports variable refresh from 30-144hz, it would be stupid to bundle it with a "60hz" capable PANEL, and I do not believe the manufacturers will do so.

Edit: I'm clearly talking about the 1080p arena here.

Would not a 4K monitor be alright only pushing 60hz or 96hz? Why 144hz? The vast majority of people are going to be struggling to get to that 96hz or even 60 at 4K on max settings now or even the next couple years. I don't see why it'd be "stupid" to bundle it with a 60hz panel. A GTX 780 Ti can only do 30 ish fps on a 4K monitor.
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Would not a 4K monitor be alright only pushing 60hz or 96hz? Why 144hz? The vast majority of people are going to be struggling to get to that 96hz or even 60 at 4K on max settings now or even the next couple years. I don't see why it'd be "stupid" to bundle it with a 60hz panel. A GTX 780 Ti can only do 30 ish fps on a 4K monitor.

60Hz just isn't enough trust me. There is a reason why still to this day allot of competitive fps players use old CRT's that can get 160Hz with no LCD motion blur (this is not something G Sync can solve) and super low input response. You guys value high resolutions way too much. Do you know all current 4k monitors have severe motion blur that makes gaming pretty awful on them? Just go look at Vega's reviews for them (he is a mod here at OCN).
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id like to see a 24inch 144mhz 1440p

that would be cool

I'm barely getting 160fps in most games with my SLI titans at 1440p maxed, how on earth am I supposed to get 100mhz+ wink.gif
    
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60Hz just isn't enough trust me. There is a reason why still to this day allot of competitive fps players use old CRT's that can get 160Hz with no LCD motion blur (this is not something G Sync can solve) and super low input response. You guys value high resolutions way too much. Do you know all current 4k monitors have severe motion blur that makes gaming pretty awful on them? Just go look at Vega's reviews for them (he is a mod here at OCN).
I have been playing BF3 on an old Samsung 204b monitor which is a TN panel at I believe 60hz and I have no idea why you guys seem to be so negative on that, I see no motion blur and impressively enough I don't see tearing either. I can move the mouse around in circles and jerk react without seeing any blurring either. It could very well just be my eyes but I have had no experiences that would suggest my monitor would cause my gaming to be bad.

I also have played many games down to 30 frames per second or less and it really didn't bother me, if I can play like that, I see no issues at all playing at 4k with what you call bad monitor reviews/complaints. You seem to think only FPS players buy monitors and that everyone's eyes are the same.

The three biggest complaints I have in monitors are black levels, backlight bleeding, and dull colors. Those are the things l will be looking for in my next monitor and TN is terrible at all three.
 
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