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post #2011 of 8206
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ugh, now i don't know what I'm going to game on with my new rig. guess i need to start shopping for a 1080p secondary monitor i can pair with this one when it finally lands.

Yeah, I just built a new PC at the beginning of the year. I was waiting on this monitor to come out. It's the last piece. In the mean time I've been using an old 26" Samsung TV (http://www.samsung.com/nz/support/model/LA26D450G1MXRD-techspecs) that has a PC mode at 1360x768. It's actually not horrible to use, but the desktop/web browsing area is so small that it almost feels like I'm on a mobile platform at times.

After I heard June, I went on a trade website and found a similar Samsung TV - 22" (http://www.samsung.com/nz/support/model/LA22A450C1XRD-techspecs) that has a 1,680 x 1,050 res instead. I figure the drop in screen size will be fine for the increased resolution. I just need something to tide me over until whenever this monitor hits.

If anyone has any better ideas though (something cheap), I'm all ears.
post #2012 of 8206
So this monitor is a pretty exciting development but it better not cost $799. That is going to allure NO ONE from their already purchased 27" 1440p IPS Korean monitors. I mean it's a TN PANEL for CRYING OUT LOUD. It should be sub-$400 PERIOD. Then, it might actually attract my wallet, I'd buy THREE! Instead of just one for some sweet MULTI-MONITOR setup. But alas, this product is not meant for me. 3 monitors would cost $2400. A real crime that is.
post #2013 of 8206
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So this monitor is a pretty exciting development but it better not cost $799. That is going to allure NO ONE from their already purchased 27" 1440p IPS Korean monitors. I mean it's a TN PANEL for CRYING OUT LOUD. It should be sub-$400 PERIOD. Then, it might actually attract my wallet, I'd buy THREE! Instead of just one for some sweet MULTI-MONITOR setup. But alas, this product is not meant for me. 3 monitors would cost $2400. A real crime that is.

But how many other 27" 1440p 120hz monitors that arent hacked imported Korean monitors are there? Even then not every QNix/etc can hit 120hz successfully if i remember right...

Also that GSync module is -expensive- if i remember right the first 24" 1080p one shipping with it is about $600 and a TN panel, Thats almost twice the price of say, that Asus 24" 1080p 144hz monitor....

So you're right, its a $400-500 monitor with $300 of GSync strapped into it.. Gsync is new, it will come down in price but the first gen is going to be expensive..

Me? I'm just not sure i can go back to TN from IPS...
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So this monitor is a pretty exciting development but it better not cost $799. That is going to allure NO ONE from their already purchased 27" 1440p IPS Korean monitors. I mean it's a TN PANEL for CRYING OUT LOUD. It should be sub-$400 PERIOD. Then, it might actually attract my wallet, I'd buy THREE! Instead of just one for some sweet MULTI-MONITOR setup. But alas, this product is not meant for me. 3 monitors would cost $2400. A real crime that is.

This is the early adopter price.

And again, this is a TN panel designed and produced specially for this monitor by ASUS. They say the color reproduction is really close to IPS, which for me is good enough.

120 Hz with GSYNC, at WQHD with 6 MM bezels and an adjustable stand at 50$ more than a Dell U2711?

I'd take that in a heartbeat, and so will bucketloads of people in this thread.
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post #2015 of 8206

I understand the nerds demand IPS or PLS quality monitors, but I assure you, if ASUS could make that work properly considering this is a gaming monitor, they would have. Its not to piss someone off or on purpose give you less than the best, what is the point in that.
If a special selected TN panel is the best choice for maximum g-sync experience, then I am sure they are telling it as it is. By the way, the BenQ and Philips g-sync monitors will be a TN as well, but with 1920x1080p resolution. So, if you think the price is too much, then perhaps you should consider BenQ's or Philips monitors, the BenQ is announced to be sub $400,- but for the love of good, don't complain about the quality of the panel in does monitors, they will be more or less standard.

So you do have a few options. 

1. Play on your IPS or PLS panel and live with tearing, ghosting etc but retain a brilliant colour representation.
2. Go for the BenQ och Philips "budget" g-sync monitor, lose colour and gradient quality but you get smooth gameplay.
3. Wait for this ASUS monitor and get close to IPS quality WQHD resolution.
4. You do not upgrade now,  wait for gen.2 or gen.3 were IPS or other types of monitor solutions are ready for g-sync

I think I speak for 100 % of the members in this tread that non of us have experienced g-sync IRL. We've heard about it, read about it and we have talked about it. And is there one thing we all agree upon, then that is the smooth gameplay Nvidia is offering via this module. 

The price tag of $799,- is a steep price yes, but there are reasons for it. 

 
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post #2016 of 8206
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But how many other 27" 1440p 120hz monitors that arent hacked imported Korean monitors are there? Even then not every QNix/etc can hit 120hz successfully if i remember right...

http://www.blurbusters.com/overclock/120hz-1440p-ips-monitors/

Motion blur is the biggest enemy of those Korean monitors. None of them can pass the motion clarity test at the site. The tech is just not there yet.

If these panels could do it, Asus wouldn't have needed to develop a panel specifically for this monitor and the price would be lower.
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post #2017 of 8206
I will buy one but not three, because of the (1) Price and (2) Fact that native 1440p 3D is not supported. Also, I fear that AMD cards are not UMLB supported on this display. JJ has ignored every question I have posed on AMD UMLB compatibility.
post #2018 of 8206
At $799 USD, I'm not going to complain about it being TN, especially given it's a specially developed panel to have close to IPS appearance. It's also bringing 120Hz ~AND~ g-sync to the table for a similar price (at least for us Canadians, I don't pay much attention to US pricing) as regular, run of the mill 1440p IPS/PLS displays (Viewsonic VP2770LED, Dell U2713HM, and even the BenQ BL2710PT are all around the $800 CAD mark before sales).

I already know that g-sync will definitely bring a lot to the table, so I'm hoping that it combined with a flicker free backlight (when ULMB is turned off) will allow me to play first person shooters for longer periods of time before eyes bug out. ^_^ No matter what though, the $2,400 hit for triple displays doesn't phase me, since I'm already expecting that kind of cost just for my main set anyways.

My secondary monitors will either be IPS/PLS, or if nVidia does release a card that has multiple display ports in their GTX 8xx lineup and brings about surround gaming support (they've said they're working on it atm) I probably won't even think twice about picking up three of these.
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post #2019 of 8206
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So this monitor is a pretty exciting development but it better not cost $799. That is going to allure NO ONE from their already purchased 27" 1440p IPS Korean monitors. I mean it's a TN PANEL for CRYING OUT LOUD. It should be sub-$400 PERIOD. Then, it might actually attract my wallet, I'd buy THREE! Instead of just one for some sweet MULTI-MONITOR setup. But alas, this product is not meant for me. 3 monitors would cost $2400. A real crime that is.

....a lot of your issues would have been shown to really not be an issue if you looked at the specs of the display, and read into the panel more.

The TN panel in this display is the first true 8-bit TN, compared to the standard 6-bit you see in every other TN panel. Using new manufacturing and design techniques on top of this have greatly increased the quality of the panel. The general consensus of people that have seen it is that it is close to PLS or IPS in color reproduction, and it does have improved viewing angels from the normal TN.

So to scream "it's a TN PANEL for CRYING OUT LOUD" isn't a relevant statement at this point, because it isn't just a TN panel.

Going back to the Korean panels, having used an Overlord Tempest at 120Hz for over a year, the blurring on these panels is bad, no way around that. Color reproduction is great, the resolution is great, the motion clarity is almost non-existent. To a gamer, motion clarity is huge! Also, people are already paying $600+ for the 120Hz Koreans, that has been going on for a year or more now, Asus isn't out of line with their price point at all.

Finally, you complain about the price of these 1440P displays and say that if they were half the cost you would run 3 in multi-monitor. Do you have ANY idea how much hardware would be required to drive three of these displays in gaming? The current 4K displays on the market have 8,294,440 pixels. Three of these displays would be 11,059,200 pixels, $3,000 in GPU hardware BARELY drive 4K at "playable" frame rates, yet you think you are going to drive even more than that?

The cost of these panels for a multi-monitor setup is the least of the concerns in that application, the bigger concern being the cost of the hardware required to drive that number of pixels. Which brings up another point; you wouldn't want to drive two or three of these, as we don't have the hardware to successfully push 120 Hz+, and G-sync doesn't function in multi-monitor.

The reality of it is the price isn't the problem here, but a stigma towards TN panels and people thinking there is only one way to make a TN panel, and that all TN panels are the same.
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I just wish they supported native 1440p 3D. I don't care for 3x1 landscape, but 3x1 landscape looks AMAZING in 3D! And triple 1440p 3D would be incredible!
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