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Originally Posted by bigtonyman1138 View Post

Maybe down the road if games start using more than 3gb of vram. There really isn't anything out there now that I know of that really uses all 3gb that the 780 ti has. I'll probably trade up just to future proof. smile.gif

As long as games continue to be poorly optimized, then yes. 6gb is the way to go if you can step up.

TitanFall uses 4.8GB of VRAM. At 1080p. Most I my games stay under 3, but some newer titles go above 3gb. Probably has to do more with poor optimizations than anything g else.

In a perfect world, 3gb would be enough, sadly games continue to be released with too many issues.
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As long as games continue to be poorly optimized, then yes. 6gb is the way to go if you can step up.

TitanFall uses 4.8GB of VRAM. At 1080p. Most I my games stay under 3, but some newer titles go above 3gb. Probably has to do more with poor optimizations than anything g else.

In a perfect world, 3gb would be enough, sadly games continue to be released with too many issues.

That seems rediculous, No wonder they cant get it to work at 1080p on the Xbox One.

And on this subject yes im kinda mad i didnt get a 4gb 770 a few months ago. Rome Total War II chews up almost all my 2gbs of VRAM (I have it set to unlimited video ram mind you) At this point getting a second 770 with 4gb would be pointless from my understanding, So im stuck with 2gb of VRAM for the time being...
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I currently have a Samsung S27A750D (120hz 27") which i might upgrade to one of these Asus monitors, 1440p seems like a nice step up. I'm guessing a 120hz screen @ 1440p is going to need at least 2 midrange or high end 770's / 780's in SLi or the AMD equivalents to run at high fps? Also, does anyone know if G-sync would get rid of any potential microstuttering or wouldn't it affect that at all?

Not really thrilled of the idea of needing to constantly upgrade my GPU's if that's what it would mean though, games are still fairly demanding @ 1080p 120hz.

I haven't really looked into 4k either, seems pointless as the majority of benchmarks i've seen make it look like it runs like ass. Too low a frame rate is no go for me.
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As long as games continue to be poorly optimized, then yes. 6gb is the way to go if you can step up.

TitanFall uses 4.8GB of VRAM. At 1080p. Most I my games stay under 3, but some newer titles go above 3gb. Probably has to do more with poor optimizations than anything g else.

In a perfect world, 3gb would be enough, sadly games continue to be released with too many issues.

Just because it is occupying that much VRAM doesn't mean it needs or is actually using that much VRAM. A lot of developers are programming their games these days to occupy as much VRAM as possible, and just basically sit on it. The truth is it actually isn't using it actively and just has laid claim to it.
    
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I've read that Titanfall is loading video sequences into the VRAM. That's not needed but caused by lazy developers and the reason for that massive need of VRAM.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&from=&to=en&a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pcgameshardware.de%2fTitanfall-PC-257364%2fNews%2fTitanfall-Hintergrund-Videos-Videospeicher-Performance-verbessern-1114596%2f (wait a moment for translation)
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Just because it is occupying that much VRAM doesn't mean it needs or is actually using that much VRAM. A lot of developers are programming their games these days to occupy as much VRAM as possible, and just basically sit on it. The truth is it actually isn't using it actively and just has laid claim to it.

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I've read that Titanfall is loading video sequences into the VRAM. That's not needed but caused by lazy developers and the reason for that massive need of VRAM.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&from=&to=en&a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pcgameshardware.de%2fTitanfall-PC-257364%2fNews%2fTitanfall-Hintergrund-Videos-Videospeicher-Performance-verbessern-1114596%2f (wait a moment for translation)

Was just an observation. Whether is lazy developers or poorly optimized games. VRAM used or allocated many times goes beyond 3gb. I don't know the science behind it, I'm glad I have 6gb. :-p
post #2287 of 8206
Probably gonna sell my 1080p 144hz panel off and pick up one of these to have dual 1440p panels. Wish they would be released already!!! frown.gif
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I'm already planning to try to do a video review if i get one early enough... Already working out what games to load up and play and a testing regiment

If I end up getting it that is... To restate what i was saying in another thread

The escalating cost of this entire thing is starting to bug me honestly.. at first I was looking at getting the 248QE to have a nice 144hz monitor to compliment my 2410, This was $280, no big deal and my 770 easily drives games at 1080p cranked to the max at over 60fps...

Then I read reviews, read the countless complaints on colors being poor and overall IQ being.. well questionable and found out i could easily jump to a Dell 2713HM for $600.. All great, Because I've had Dell and etc.. Then I start reading reviews and theres all the QC complaints and the constant complaining over blur and response times which apparently annoy everyone out there which make me start questioning if thats the right move..

Then I read about the RoG Swift and think, Finally! A monitor that gives me everything... its $800.. ok a little.. ok a LOT more than i was intending on spending but i can afford it... and 120hz! GSync! Exclamation points!

But then I start thinking and realizing, I can do 1440p sure, I can get perfectly playable framerates in 1440p on everything i play at roughly the same settings (just adjusting the AA pretty much) but I rarely will exceed 60.. Futureproofing is one thing but as graphics improve the situation will only get worse, the newest games will likely be just as bad or worse...

Blur annoys me, but im pretty sure im right in thinking that playing a game at 40-50 fps on a 60hz monitor will look exactly like playing a game at 40-50 fps on a 120hz monitor. Im pretty sure theres zero advantage there... Any slight advantage from motion blur and such will be more the fact its a TN panel than actually being 120hz

So then I start thinking "add a second 770! Do SLI For the first time!" and the idea is tantalizing! and dual 770s easily go >60fps in everything out there ..But then the rational side of me is now kicking the other side of me in the face and going "Ok ok, Enough is enough, This went from $280, to $600 to $1200... and fast" Not to mention 6 months down the line what happens if some title I want to play does -not- support SLI? Then I'm SOL and I'm out looking for another GPU.. Which means now my future costs are skyrocketing, Quickly.
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I'm already planning to try to do a video review if i get one early enough... Already working out what games to load up and play and a testing regiment

If I end up getting it that is... To restate what i was saying in another thread

The escalating cost of this entire thing is starting to bug me honestly.. at first I was looking at getting the 248QE to have a nice 144hz monitor to compliment my 2410, This was $280, no big deal and my 770 easily drives games at 1080p cranked to the max at over 60fps...

Then I read reviews, read the countless complaints on colors being poor and overall IQ being.. well questionable and found out i could easily jump to a Dell 2713HM for $600.. All great, Because I've had Dell and etc.. Then I start reading reviews and theres all the QC complaints and the constant complaining over blur and response times which apparently annoy everyone out there which make me start questioning if thats the right move..

Then I read about the RoG Swift and think, Finally! A monitor that gives me everything... its $800.. ok a little.. ok a LOT more than i was intending on spending but i can afford it... and 120hz! GSync! Exclamation points!

But then I start thinking and realizing, I can do 1440p sure, I can get perfectly playable framerates in 1440p on everything i play at roughly the same settings (just adjusting the AA pretty much) but I rarely will exceed 60.. Futureproofing is one thing but as graphics improve the situation will only get worse, the newest games will likely be just as bad or worse...

Blur annoys me, but im pretty sure im right in thinking that playing a game at 40-50 fps on a 60hz monitor will look exactly like playing a game at 40-50 fps on a 120hz monitor. Im pretty sure theres zero advantage there... Any slight advantage from motion blur and such will be more the fact its a TN panel than actually being 120hz

So then I start thinking "add a second 770! Do SLI For the first time!" and the idea is tantalizing! and dual 770s easily go >60fps in everything out there ..But then the rational side of me is now kicking the other side of me in the face and going "Ok ok, Enough is enough, This went from $280, to $600 to $1200... and fast" Not to mention 6 months down the line what happens if some title I want to play does -not- support SLI? Then I'm SOL and I'm out looking for another GPU.. Which means now my future costs are skyrocketing, Quickly.

 

Welcome to the club. I am in a similar boat - the cost on my H440 build is way beyond planed and gpu is always an issue. 

 
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I'm already planning to try to do a video review if i get one early enough... Already working out what games to load up and play and a testing regiment

If I end up getting it that is... To restate what i was saying in another thread

The escalating cost of this entire thing is starting to bug me honestly.. at first I was looking at getting the 248QE to have a nice 144hz monitor to compliment my 2410, This was $280, no big deal and my 770 easily drives games at 1080p cranked to the max at over 60fps...

Then I read reviews, read the countless complaints on colors being poor and overall IQ being.. well questionable and found out i could easily jump to a Dell 2713HM for $600.. All great, Because I've had Dell and etc.. Then I start reading reviews and theres all the QC complaints and the constant complaining over blur and response times which apparently annoy everyone out there which make me start questioning if thats the right move..

Then I read about the RoG Swift and think, Finally! A monitor that gives me everything... its $800.. ok a little.. ok a LOT more than i was intending on spending but i can afford it... and 120hz! GSync! Exclamation points!

But then I start thinking and realizing, I can do 1440p sure, I can get perfectly playable framerates in 1440p on everything i play at roughly the same settings (just adjusting the AA pretty much) but I rarely will exceed 60.. Futureproofing is one thing but as graphics improve the situation will only get worse, the newest games will likely be just as bad or worse...

Blur annoys me, but im pretty sure im right in thinking that playing a game at 40-50 fps on a 60hz monitor will look exactly like playing a game at 40-50 fps on a 120hz monitor. Im pretty sure theres zero advantage there... Any slight advantage from motion blur and such will be more the fact its a TN panel than actually being 120hz

So then I start thinking "add a second 770! Do SLI For the first time!" and the idea is tantalizing! and dual 770s easily go >60fps in everything out there ..But then the rational side of me is now kicking the other side of me in the face and going "Ok ok, Enough is enough, This went from $280, to $600 to $1200... and fast" Not to mention 6 months down the line what happens if some title I want to play does -not- support SLI? Then I'm SOL and I'm out looking for another GPU.. Which means now my future costs are skyrocketing, Quickly.

Better one GPU than a SLI. (frame pacing, scaling, compatibility issues, ...) But then again for 1440p you need a SLI of 780 at least. Yes, even if you fiddle for hours with graphical settings including advanced tweaking.
I'm assuming here you intend to play modern AAA games. (If you plan on playing games like counter strike or quake 3, then even a single 770 will do the trick.)

I hope I'm not repeating myself too much. I'm just worried you wouldn't get a satisfactory result if you don't pair such a demanding display with high end hardware.
And since the display will cost 800 dollars. That would be hard to swallow.

You mention future proofing. And I think that's where your decision can be made. It all depends on your future plans for hardware upgrade.

I'd like to mention that other brands have announced G-sync monitors. So keep an eye on them. They will likely be 1080p and cheaper. So that may be more reasonable.
It's an exciting time for gaming displays with things moving faster and new technologies being implemented. Next year there will be other monitors announced with further refinements.
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