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Originally Posted by Hasty View Post

You preach G-sync as if it was the best experience one can get on a gaming monitor. And that is wrong.

- First off there is the incompatibility between G-sync mode and the low persistence ULMB mode.

- Secondly G-sync at max refresh rate and over has virtually no benefits over V-sync at max refresh rate.


Don't get me wrong. G-sync is awesome for what it does. And I'm already sold on it. I bought my GPU from Nvidia for G-sync and I'll probably jump on the Rog Swift as soon as it's available to me.

But let's be clear about G-sync mode:

Using G-sync mode isn't using the monitor to it's full potential and getting the best experience it can provide.
G-sync is there to remove the tearing and the micro stuttering from games for which the frame rates aren't stable above the max refresh rate of the monitor.

That's what G-sync does. It makes low fluctuating frame rates significantly more "playable". Nothing more.

You forgot to mention that while GSync is enabled, there is almost 0 input lag. Something that keeps many people from using Vsync.

You're drinking the koolaid so hard. We already established that the input lag is nearly the same as with Vsync off. Didn't you read this? http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/
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But even when this happens, because it's a G-Sync 120 Hz, as you drop in framerate from 120 to 110 to 100 to 90 as the system ages, you're still having an amazing, smooth, crisp experience, all the way down to the 40s.

Your tolerance for framerate will determine how often you upgrade, but the point that this isn't only a high-end monitor - it is a high end monitor, but it scales downward to lower FPS better than anything else in the world.
I can indeed tolerate fps dips down to around 40-45fps, i really start to feel it once it goes lower than that.

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My feeling is that after this year, the industry is going to push towards 4k gaming. Video cards will rise to try to support this technology, because otherwise the monitors will not sell. A 1440p monitor would then get caught and "passed by" in their efforts to deliver single graphics cards that can do 4k @ 60hz.
Good point and hopefully this is true, people with lesser resolution monitors will then have no problems. I'm currently running a samsung 120hz screen with 1080p and at 27" so the resolution bump should be perfect at this screen size. For games this one is great, but finer things like text isn't as clear (or fuller?) as it could be, the bump to 1440p would probably cure that.

I haven't seen a 4k screen or even a 1440p one, but i'm pretty sure at 1440p it's pretty much more than good enough.. especially with the 120hz and g-sync.
Edited by Perfect_Chaos - 3/27/14 at 11:38pm
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Any new information on if we are going to see Glossy versions of these? Isn't it cheaper for them to leave it glossy? Why not offer two flavors.
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You're drinking the koolaid so hard. We already established that the input lag is nearly the same as with Vsync off. Didn't you read this? http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/
V-sync carries a significant input lag penalty that g-sync doesn't, it was never implied that g-sync had less latency than vsync off.
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You're drinking the koolaid so hard. We already established that the input lag is nearly the same as with Vsync off. Didn't you read this? http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/

Isn't that what I just said?
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You're drinking the koolaid so hard. We already established that the input lag is nearly the same as with Vsync off. Didn't you read this? http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/
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V-sync carries a significant input lag penalty that g-sync doesn't, it was never implied that g-sync had less latency than vsync off.
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Originally Posted by LaBestiaHumana View Post

Isn't that what I just said?





I guess you guys missed my post somehow.

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Originally Posted by Hasty View Post

Actually it is true. And it has been tested.

http://www.infinite.cz/blog/herni-monitory-input-lag-gsync

From his tests:

- V-sync 144Hz => 39ms

- G-sync 144Hz => 39ms

Confirmed by Blur Busters:
http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=389#p3611

Note: there is a work around by using an in game frame cap. (See my post about Counter Strike.)

Like I said at 144fps. G-sync has the same input lag as V-Sync ON.


This is why I wrote
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- Secondly G-sync at max refresh rate and over has virtually no benefits over V-sync at max refresh rate.

Not sure why you guys are agreeing on the opposite of what I stated. Even though I provided sources to tests and explanations about the issue.
Edited by Hasty - 3/28/14 at 2:21am
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I can indeed tolerate fps dips down to around 40-45fps, i really start to feel it once it goes lower than that.

Ah, but I suspect that that is largely because of the stuttering that you get with current systems. I'd be very curious to see if you're less bothered by it in a G-Sync monitor.
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Good news. The 780 Ti will also be available with 6 GB sometime around may / june. ASAP EVGA release one I will get it

 
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Good news. The 780 Ti will also be available with 6 GB sometime around may / june. ASAP EVGA release one I will get it

Ain't Maxwell comming around mid 2014?
Dunno.. i'd personally wait for it.
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Also, does anyone know if G-sync would get rid of any potential microstuttering or wouldn't it affect that at all?

G-Sync eliminates microstuttering.
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