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Originally Posted by Amperial View Post

Ain't Maxwell comming around mid 2014?
Dunno.. i'd personally wait for it.

Maxwell was released via 750 and test show minor differences. However, the story of the 800 series is still fairly unknown. Its said that it will draw less power which is beneficial. The only way I will invest in the 880 is if 1. It significantly less power consumption. 2. Performs 15-20 % better. 3. Got 6 GB memory. 4. With a reasonable price tag compared to 780 Ti. The 780 Ti is a well established platform and a sure bet. Maxwell is interesting yes and we'll wait for more info.

 
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Originally Posted by Amperial View Post

Ain't Maxwell comming around mid 2014?
Dunno.. i'd personally wait for it.

I've got no evidence aside from my gut feeling, but the bump of memory for the 780 and 780ti means to me that Nvidia want's to keep up the sales momentum and give people something to continue buying while they delay the release of the 800 series.

Why would they saturate the market with a new/revised gpu and then promptly undercut it (technology wise) with a new architecture a few months afterward? I mean, I can see it happening but I also see it as possibly taking some of the attention away from the 800 series.

I predict we'll see the 880 sometime after September, possibly later unless AMD forces the move. Still, I'd wait for it (and am).
Edited by Aemonn - 3/28/14 at 12:55pm
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post #2353 of 8206
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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

But even when this happens, because it's a G-Sync 120 Hz, as you drop in framerate from 120 to 110 to 100 to 90 as the system ages, you're still having an amazing, smooth, crisp experience, all the way down to the 40s.

Your tolerance for framerate will determine how often you upgrade, but the point that this isn't only a high-end monitor - it is a high end monitor, but it scales downward to lower FPS better than anything else in the world.

Framerate tolerance is true no matter what screen you have... I upgrade usually the moment i cant play a AAA title at its fullest without it being a smooth experience (and i research and ensure its NOT an isolated issue.. I remember building this rig with the original 570 in it and Dragon Age II came out around the same time and I remember firing it up and getting 20fps.. it was an engine issue with nVidia cards that a patch corrected) I also tend to analyze whether a particular engine is a good example of current gen, if its a decently well optimized engine/what have you and im not getting the FPS i desire at the settings i want, i start looking to see if anything new is going to give me enough of a jump to invest in.

If yes, i invest and enjoy my new GPU hardware.. In general my cycle is roughly 3 years when i do it right, 1.5-2 if i do it wrong, and 3 weeks if i try AMD /rimshot

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Originally Posted by Leviathan25 View Post

My feeling is that after this year, the industry is going to push towards 4k gaming. Video cards will rise to try to support this technology, because otherwise the monitors will not sell. A 1440p monitor would then get caught and "passed by" in their efforts to deliver single graphics cards that can do 4k @ 60hz.

Or the monitor makers wont care and just push 4k anyways, 4k is going to be the new "Full HD" and EVERYONE who knows nothing about computers except what marketing tells them will want it... 4k will be everywhere, its up to nVidia and AMD more than the panel makers to make sure we gamers have the power for when that time comes

And monitor makers might continue to push out existing 1440p screens, they just might not update or release new models unless the market is good for it, while I think theres a large untapped market for the RoG Swift, im not sure the market would support say, Eizo, Benq and Asus all fighting over it...

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Originally Posted by Perfect_Chaos View Post

I can indeed tolerate fps dips down to around 40-45fps, i really start to feel it once it goes lower than that.
Good point and hopefully this is true, people with lesser resolution monitors will then have no problems. I'm currently running a samsung 120hz screen with 1080p and at 27" so the resolution bump should be perfect at this screen size. For games this one is great, but finer things like text isn't as clear (or fuller?) as it could be, the bump to 1440p would probably cure that.
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Yeah 1440p will make the text sharper, I looked at 27" 1080p monitors and just went meh, at your average viewing distance everythings just too.. Big... Good if you're older i suppose and want the windows large, but for someone like me wanting lots of screen real estate its not ideal...

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Originally Posted by Aemonn View Post

I've got no evidence aside from my gut feeling, but the bump of memory for the 780 and 780ti means to me that Nvidia want's to keep up the sales momentum and give people something to continue buying while they delay the release of the 800 series.

Why would they saturate the market with a new/revised gpu and then promptly undercut it (technology wise) with a new architecture a few months afterward? I mean, I can see it happening but I also see it as possibly taking some of the attention away from the 800 series.

I predict we'll see the 880 sometime after September, possibly later unless AMD forces the move. Still, I'd wait for it (and am).

Isnt it just EVGA/Cardmakers doing 6gb 780 Tis? This might not be anything more than a midlife bump to the 780 Ti to clear out remaining 780 Ti chips...
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Originally Posted by moogleslam View Post

G-Sync eliminates microstuttering.
With 2 GPU's? Where did you read about this?
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Originally Posted by KenjiS View Post

Framerate tolerance is true no matter what screen you have... I upgrade usually the moment i cant play a AAA title at its fullest without it being a smooth experience

The thing is, you could have an unsmooth experience at 50 fps on a normal monitor, but still have a smooth experience at 35 fps on a G-Sync.

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With 2 GPU's? Where did you read about this?

It won't eliminate the actual frame time variance that microstuttering causes, but it does prevent that variance from being visible on the output. Basically, any variance in framerate of any kind, whether it's a slowdown from too much junk in the game to a SLI hiccup, it all gets smoothed out by variable refresh.
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Ok on GSync I found this when i did a bit of digging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAzRHVXaaV0

Wow.. That looks a lot better.. I guess i never even noticed the stuttering and stuff, Must just have gotten used to it
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This or pb278q? I currently have vg248qe and i am not happy with the washed out colors
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This or pb278q? I currently have vg248qe and i am not happy with the washed out colors

With dual 780s id go with this
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lol.. at that guy saying gsync has the same input lag with vsync and he linked a myth busters review of it.

Your very own url explicitly says it was no input lag compared to vsync OFF provided you don't run gsync at around the max hz as fps.

Perhaps NVIDIA could put a popup warning 'hey run your game up to around 120fps to avoid vsync rate lag' but that's just stupid-proofing. And I suspect they'll eventually force it to never go full hz somehow.
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I guess you guys missed my post somehow.
Like I said at 144fps. G-sync has the same input lag as V-Sync ON.


This is why I wrote
Not sure why you guys are agreeing on the opposite of what I stated. Even though I provided sources to tests and explanations about the issue.
The G-sync monitor in v-sync at 144hz is 39 ms, and the g-sync with no cap is 39ms because in that scenario it's equivalent to v-sync. g-sync and game engine framecapped to 135fps it's 17ms, which is on par with no-sync.
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