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Jack Mac, you are missing the point of this monitor.
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post #2422 of 8206
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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Here's my point, though:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1036

A single 780 will struggle to get up to 120 Hz on a 1440p. You won't be *able* to run this monitor with ULMB and have the kind of experience you're wanting due to the resolution increase - not unless you're willing to sacrifice a lot of eye candy that you're currently enjoying. 1440 is a LOT more pixels, and you take a pretty massive hit to go up to it. And at anything less than rock-solid 120+ FPS, so that no matter what you do the framerate never dips below 120, G-Sync will be a better option than ULMB. You will get a smoother experience, tear-free, stutter-free, with no increase to input lag. Lightboost/ULMB doesn't work when framerate is different from the strobe frequency. Your rig simply will not be able to run ULMB anyway.

The true triumph will be when they get the display strobe to also be variable, and controlled by G-Sync too. It's not there yet, but I expect it will be. And damn, will that be some good times. Can't wait.

But in the meantime, do not be so quick to write off G-Sync. From every firsthand account, it makes a more significant improvement in the visual experience than lightboost ever came close to doing. Do not dismiss it so blithely.

There are more than one hz settings for the ulmb mode on this monitor, such as 85hz..
post #2423 of 8206
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Originally Posted by Heracles View Post

There are more than one hz settings for the ulmb mode on this monitor, such as 85hz..
85Hz ULMB will be a flickering hell even at 2ms persistence. Stay away from it unless your own flicker fusion threshold is very low.
Edited by Hasty - 4/1/14 at 6:45am
post #2424 of 8206
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Originally Posted by Jack Mac View Post

Hm, I guess. I just want a 1440p 120Hz strobed monitor, I'm not interested in G-sync or paying extra for it when I'll never use it. Hopefully we'll see a cheaper, non G-sync swift for less from ASUS or a different manufacturer.

Every g-sync monitors will come with an ULMB mode.
If you absolutely don't want g-sync. The other options are:
-Lightboost hack
-BenQ Motion Blur Reduction
-Eizo Turbo 240

Every low persistence mode flavors have their own strengths and weaknesses. (I'm not gonna detail these here)
But:

- The lightboost hack is the most ancient method of the lot and has the most severe drawbacks in image quality.
- BenQ next offering will be the G series. It comes with G-sync so I guess that's not for you. Not to mention they will be 1080p
- Some other 1080p g-sync monitors will come from ViewSonic and Philips. Both 1080p
- Nothing announced for Eizo.

Conclusion: If you want a 1440p with a decent low persistence mode. I think you don't have much choice. It's unlikely that a non G-sync 1440p low persistence display will come this year.

BTW, if you go for g-sync, you will get your low persistence mode but you'll also be able to play in decent conditions the odd next-gen games that you might wanna play once in a while. I think it's a win-win situation. And at 800 dollars, it doesn't seem to me like the g-sync is a costly premium. Because the product in itself (not considering the g-sync module) is already pretty high end.
post #2425 of 8206
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Regarding Nvidia Geforce GTX 800 series.

"The Taiwanese partner manufacturer NVIDIA now states to SweClockers that it will be some time before Nvidia can introduce graphics processors with the architecture Maxwell 20 nanometers. At best, an occasional model will appear towards the end of the year, but more likely is that it will take until well into 2015. A shift from 28 to 20 nanometers is considered necessary for Nvidia to use Maxwell in the higher performance classes. This is especially true for the successors to the GK110, which is the basis for the Geforce GTX 780, GTX 780 Ti, Titanium and Titanium Black. The 20 nanometer delay may also explain why the first graphics card with architecture Maxwell does not present a new series, but now play along with generation Kepler in the existing 700 series."

Source

So as we all suspected, Nvidia components are delayed. I think AMD kicked their as and Nvidia panicked and hence messed up launch dates etc. So, regarding the 6 GB versions of the 780 / 780 Ti, that is a direct response to AMD and the demand for higher memory capacity now. Someone did mention that the 6 GB version might be a disguise for delayed 800 series and who ever you are, here is your proof.


Meaning there is no reason for me to wait since the 780 Ti 6 GB will be the top of the line this year and I am only a few months away from getting the SLI.

Thanks, I'm still hopeful we'll see some good stuff this fall. However I won't get my hopes up.
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85Hz ULMB will be a flickering hell even at 2ms persistence. Stay away from it unless you're own flicker fusion threshold is very low.

If its that bad why even offer it? Unless the strobe effect is differ to crt at 85hz
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If its that bad why even offer it? Unless the strobe effect is differ to crt at 85hz
Because sometimes you can't run a game over 85fps
Edited by TranquilTempest - 3/31/14 at 8:25pm
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Because sometimes you can't run a game over 85fps

Well if you can't run it over 85hz/fps stable than use g-sync or am I missibg something here. My point was if you can't hit ulmb at 120 or 144 hz there is a 85 and 100hz option
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When it comes to a TV or single monitor, I don't understand all of the hype over small bezels. But when it comes to multi-monitor setups, I can easily see how this is a plus.
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When it comes to a TV or single monitor, I don't understand all of the hype over small bezels. But when it comes to multi-monitor setups, I can easily see how this is a plus.
It just looks so clean and professional. Sexy would be another term I'd use. Lol
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