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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Except for the "people who have seen this panel in person." Those people do exist.

They saw someone else demonstrate a prototype in January. We already know they didn't see the version of gsync the monitor will ship with. We already know they didn't see the AG coating the monitor will ship with. And we know that none of them performed any sort of color accuracy tests, much less actually got to interact with the prototype.

We all hope this monitor will make gaming on an IPS/PLS absurd. I just don't understand why everyone wants to talk about how good it's image quality is when there is no real evidence to support the claims.
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I see your marathon morphing gif. That's cool
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post #2523 of 8206
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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Except for the "people who have seen this panel in person." Those people do exist.

Don't worry, I have learned to ignore Donny, he just loves to hate on the display for no reason at all. He ignores the reports coming from people who have seen it in person as if it is some big conspiracy.

On a complete unrelated, to his hate, note.....

My GTX 780 Ti showed up today, opened the box and in it was a GTX 770. Amazon promptly refunded my money in advance and gave me a return label to get it back to them.

Now I wait another two days for, hopefully, an actual 780 Ti to show up.
    
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post #2524 of 8206
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They saw someone else demonstrate a prototype in January. We already know they didn't see the version of gsync the monitor will ship with. We already know they didn't see the AG coating the monitor will ship with. And we know that none of them performed any sort of color accuracy tests, much less actually got to interact with the prototype.

We all hope this monitor will make gaming on an IPS/PLS absurd. I just don't understand why everyone wants to talk about how good it's image quality is when there is no real evidence to support the claims.

Since when does first-hand observation not count as evidence?
post #2525 of 8206
What was said was "real evidence." Anecdotal evidence generally isn't that strong, especially in this case where the monitor has definitely been tweaked in nontrivial ways since people saw it.

I mean, it's hard to see a lot of potential uniformity issues, get a gauge on contrast, and whatever else with the naked eye, hence the reference to standard lab testing gear. Not to mention, in an environment where you don't have control over the content being displayed on the screen or the lighting. Or influences from the way the setup is shown, the people telling you about it, and/or simply not being in the correct state of mind or having the right reference when evaluating it.

This doesn't mean the monitor is good or bad, just that you need to take prerelease reports with the correctly sized grains of salt and understand the level of uncertainty (there's always uncertainty, just to different extents) inherent in the level of information gathered so far.
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This doesn't mean the monitor is good or bad, just that you need to take prerelease reports with the correctly sized grains of salt and understand the level of uncertainty (there's always uncertainty, just to different extents) inherent in the level of information gathered so far.

Fine, but there's a big difference between healthy skepticism and nihilism.
post #2527 of 8206
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What was said was "real evidence." Anecdotal evidence generally isn't that strong, especially in this case where the monitor has definitely been tweaked in nontrivial ways since people saw it.

I mean, it's hard to see a lot of potential uniformity issues, get a gauge on contrast, and whatever else with the naked eye, hence the reference to standard lab testing gear. Not to mention, in an environment where you don't have control over the content being displayed on the screen or the lighting. Or influences from the way the setup is shown, the people telling you about it, and/or simply not being in the correct state of mind or having the right reference when evaluating it.

This doesn't mean the monitor is good or bad, just that you need to take prerelease reports with the correctly sized grains of salt and understand the level of uncertainty (there's always uncertainty, just to different extents) inherent in the level of information gathered so far.

Exactly this. The only thing we have to go on is ASUS reps hinting that the image quality will surpass the VG series. This could easily surpass the IQ of the VG series and still be mediocre.
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Don't worry, I have learned to ignore Donny, he just loves to hate on the display for no reason at all. He ignores the reports coming from people who have seen it in person as if it is some big conspiracy.

On a complete unrelated, to his hate, note.....

My GTX 780 Ti showed up today, opened the box and in it was a GTX 770. Amazon promptly refunded my money in advance and gave me a return label to get it back to them.

Now I wait another two days for, hopefully, an actual 780 Ti to show up.

No dude, it's your arrogant attitude I hate. You post speculation as if it's gospel and get angry when you get called out on being FOS. But hey, TSMC is pumping out 30k wafers per minute, right? And you read a comment three months ago from someone you've probably never spoken to who says this monitor looked pretty, so anyone who is skeptical must be insane, right?
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Exactly this. The only thing we have to go on is ASUS reps hinting that the image quality will surpass the VG series. This could easily surpass the IQ of the VG series and still be mediocre.

As long as it is better than most current TN panels does it really matter? I mean the technology in this monitor doesn't exist anywhere else yet, if the image quality is even the same as current crappy TN panels I think the audience remains unchanged. 1440p gsync 144hz ...
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As long as it is better than most current TN panels does it really matter? I mean the technology in this monitor doesn't exist anywhere else yet, if the image quality is even the same as current crappy TN panels I think the audience remains unchanged. 1440p gsync 144hz ...

If it has better IQ than most TN panels, then it will be wildly successful, and I will be ecstatic. I just want to see results before I crown it king, because I know from first hand experience how bad its predecessor is when it comes to IQ.
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