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Originally Posted by littledonny View Post

If it has better IQ than most TN panels, then it will be wildly successful, and I will be ecstatic. I just want to see results before I crown it king, because I know from first hand experience how bad its predecessor is when it comes to IQ.

Waiting for results to crown it king is fine, but why the campaign to prevent any and all excitement based on very clearly stated as preliminary observations? What reason do we have to disbelieve them? What reason do you have to convince people to not believe them?
post #2532 of 8206
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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Waiting for results to crown it king is fine, but why the campaign to prevent any and all excitement based on very clearly stated as preliminary observations? What reason do we have to disbelieve them? What reason do you have to convince people to not believe them?

Image quality is largely an objective science. All of the major factors can be measured empirically. We have no contrast numbers, no color accuracy test results. I don't disbelieve the people who saw it, I just know that no one has any idea what the objective measurements of IQ will end up being.

The best indication we have is ASUS hinting that it will surpass the IQ of the VG series. So we could assume that means it will have a better contrast ratio than VG248QE, which is somewhere between 300-500:1. The QNIX PLS panels are sitting at 1000-1300:1. So where will the ROG fall in that range? The people who saw the monitor in a controlled demo can't answer that question, because they weren't allowed to test it.
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Why even bother with direct comparisons to IPS monitors? It's not aimed at the the IPS market. It is a gsync enabled TN panel gaming monitor. Asus asserts that it will be better than the standard TN panel and if so that is great. However, the majority of the folks (myself included) are buying it because it is a 1440P gsync monitor. I don't use an IPS monitor for gaming, too much input lag.

I had 3 different Korean "junk" monitors all of which promised dirt cheap overclocking IPS panels. All 3 ended up being garbage for various reasons. I know there are a few folks here at OCN that have gotten decent ones, I was unlucky. Even those that own ones that are decent have commented on the TN 120 or 144hz monitors still being faster and more responsive. At this point based on my experiences, I will be sticking to name brand, quality monitors.

I have a Dell IPS monitor that I use for work. I have tried it for gaming and was not happy. Then again the ROG monitor is not aimed at the work segment.
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post #2534 of 8206
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Why even bother with direct comparisons to IPS monitors? It's not aimed at the the IPS market. It is a gsync enabled TN panel gaming monitor. Asus asserts that it will be better than the standard TN panel and if so that is great. However, the majority of the folks (myself included) are buying it because it is a 1440P gsync monitor. I don't use an IPS monitor for gaming, too much input lag.

I had 3 different Korean "junk" monitors all of which promised dirt cheap overclocking IPS panels. All 3 ended up being garbage for various reasons. I know there are a few folks here at OCN that have gotten decent ones, I was unlucky. Even those that own ones that are decent have commented on the TN 120 or 144hz monitors still being faster and more responsive. At this point based on my experiences, I will be sticking to name brand, quality monitors.

I have a Dell IPS monitor that I use for work. I have tried it for gaming and was not happy. Then again the ROG monitor is not aimed at the work segment.

This guy gets it. Not worth comparing IQ to IPS, it will not win period. 1440P Gsync, sign me up. Any increased IQ is just a bonus. I will have an IPS monitor right next to the Swift.
post #2535 of 8206
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Originally Posted by mikeaj View Post

What was said was "real evidence." Anecdotal evidence generally isn't that strong, especially in this case where the monitor has definitely been tweaked in nontrivial ways since people saw it.

I mean, it's hard to see a lot of potential uniformity issues, get a gauge on contrast, and whatever else with the naked eye, hence the reference to standard lab testing gear. Not to mention, in an environment where you don't have control over the content being displayed on the screen or the lighting. Or influences from the way the setup is shown, the people telling you about it, and/or simply not being in the correct state of mind or having the right reference when evaluating it.

This doesn't mean the monitor is good or bad, just that you need to take prerelease reports with the correctly sized grains of salt and understand the level of uncertainty (there's always uncertainty, just to different extents) inherent in the level of information gathered so far.

Do you honestly believe the production model is going to be WORSE than the model they allowed to be seen in public?

The answer to that would be "No.".

The panel observed in the wild is the panel that is getting used, the only unknown spec was what coating they were going to use; AG vs Non-AG. The rest of the specs have been known, to even imply there is going to be some drastic change that somehow makes this panel worse right now is just insane.
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Do you honestly believe the production model is going to be WORSE than the prototype model they allowed to be seen in public?

The answer to that would be "No.".

Can't fix what isn't broken, but still a useful added word.
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improved TN panel right?. which I think means better colours and better viewing angels?. why it only has a display port?

thinking of cheating on my ASUS VG278HE once this goes available on Amazon.

Just curious whats your calibration settings while with lightboost on/off? I have the same monitor and yeah I'm trying to be patient for this monitor but I'm also looking into the 2420z.
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When do we expect to see monitors with DP 1.3? Would it be worth the wait over this monitor?
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Originally Posted by writer21 View Post

Just curious whats your calibration settings while with lightboost on/off? I have the same monitor and yeah I'm trying to be patient for this monitor but I'm also looking into the 2420z.

I was reading about that yesterday but done nothing. I was afraid to damage something. going to 2420z from that!?. seems not worth it.
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When do we expect to see monitors with DP 1.3? Would it be worth the wait over this monitor?

I don't think DP 1.3 would really help for this monitor. 4k is where the bandwidth becomes a concern.
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