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Source, please?

I'm just guessing based on the fact that nvidia is forcing delays on all gsync monitor makers, and that the gsync integrated VG248QE is nowhere to be found as far as I am aware.

I should have clarified that it was just a hunch, but I was in a hurry. My apologies.
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Originally Posted by littledonny View Post

I'm just guessing based on the fact that nvidia is forcing delays on all gsync monitor makers, and that the gsync integrated VG248QE is nowhere to be found as far as I am aware.

I should have clarified that it was just a hunch, but I was in a hurry. My apologies.

Since when are they "forcing delays" ? A rep from Overlord said that Nvidia's engineers were working as fast as they could to get G-Sync implemented, but that they were limited by the time it took to do the painstaking work involved. What about that is "forcing" a delay? How does that come anywhere close to "defective" modules?

Saying it's just a hunch doesn't change your logic, and it's your logic that needs justification. Badly.
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Since when are they "forcing delays" ? A rep from Overlord said that Nvidia's engineers were working as fast as they could to get G-Sync implemented, but that they were limited by the time it took to do the painstaking work involved. What about that is "forcing" a delay? How does that come anywhere close to "defective" modules?

Saying it's just a hunch doesn't change your logic, and it's your logic that needs justification. Badly.

The logic is simple, but the conclusion is just speculation. ASUS showed a working prototype of a gsync integrated monitor 3 months ago. The VG248QE with integrated gsync was supposed to be released by now. The tech was first introduced in November? of last year. It's not unreasonable to think that nvidia may be having some unforeseen difficulties.
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The logic is simple, but the conclusion is just speculation. ASUS showed a working prototype of a gsync integrated monitor 3 months ago. The VG248QE with integrated gsync was supposed to be released by now. The tech was first introduced in November? of last year. It's not unreasonable to think that nvidia may be having some unforeseen difficulties.

And yet there are members on here with installed kits (2 that I know of) working fine. There were very few DIY kits available in the first place. I know I tried to find one and saw a single unit on ebay a couple of months ago.

I was actually surprised they released the kits at all as the monitor makers would be losing revenue from new monitor sales.

The kit works great, just very few out in the wild. The target date for the monitors is end of Q2 for Asus and BenQ.
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Originally Posted by littledonny View Post

The logic is simple, but the conclusion is just speculation. ASUS showed a working prototype of a gsync integrated monitor 3 months ago. The VG248QE with integrated gsync was supposed to be released by now. The tech was first introduced in November? of last year. It's not unreasonable to think that nvidia may be having some unforeseen difficulties.

They already told us what the difficulty was.....

Each module has to be calibrated for the specific panel type it is going to be used in, they didn't expect this. The expected launch was they make the G-sync module, bolt it onto a panel, and it works universally.

What really ended up happening is that G-Sync modules have to be calibrated to each specific panel model, so the timing is correct.

Examples:

What they thought would happen

  • Make G-Sync modules
  • Sell to manufacturers and DIY kits
  • End user, manufacturer or DIY user, bolts it on and is ready to go.

What really ended up happening

  • Make G-Sync module
  • Calibrate module to specific panel
  • Release to end user for that specific panel
  • End user installs module

The delay and problem was in the calibration step, they have to be done manually and Nvidia only has so many people that can work so many hours. It also forces them into having to batch process the modules, panel type by panel type. So if Asus puts in an order for the panel used in their VG248 series, then Nvidia has to produce the G-Sync module and then hand tune all those modules for that panel.

It just so happens that the first modules to make it out the door were for those Asus panels. The other guys like BenQ and even Overlord are "in queue" awaiting their modules.

So it wasn't due to any defect, it was just an additional and unforeseen step required in the process to bring them to market, one that did unfortunately increase the wait time for some situations. Although you can still buy the module for the previously mentioned Asus display, and we have users on the forum with them.
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And yet there are members on here with installed kits (2 that I know of) working fine. There were very few DIY kits available in the first place. I know I tried to find one and saw a single unit on ebay a couple of months ago.

I was actually surprised they released the kits at all as the monitor makers would be losing revenue from new monitor sales.

The kit works great, just very few out in the wild. The target date for the monitors is end of Q2 for Asus and BenQ.

donnys tinfoil hat is gigantic.

i have a DIY kit. it works very very well. if there was a defect in it, i would know considering im looking at the screen for quite a few hours a day.

this forum hurts my brain.
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donnys tinfoil hat is gigantic.

i have a DIY kit. it works very very well. if there was a defect in it, i would know considering im looking at the screen for quite a few hours a day.

this forum hurts my brain.

I think it's safe to say that 6 months ago, nvidia expected gsync monitors to be released by now. All I'm saying is that there may have been unforseseen difficulties, and that seems to be the case. I'm not saying they won't release, just that it is taking them longer than anticipated.

However, none of this explains why there is no gsync integrated VG248QE available for purchase. Unless the DIY kit version isn't fit for mass production...
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I think it's safe to say that 6 months ago, nvidia expected gsync monitors to be released by now. All I'm saying is that there may have been unforseseen difficulties, and that seems to be the case. I'm not saying they won't release, just that it is taking them longer than anticipated

Considering they said "next year" in all of their announcements, I'm not sure why you think it's so safe to say.
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I think it's safe to say that 6 months ago, nvidia expected gsync monitors to be released by now. All I'm saying is that there may have been unforseseen difficulties, and that seems to be the case. I'm not saying they won't release, just that it is taking them longer than anticipated.

However, none of this explains why there is no gsync integrated VG248QE available for purchase. Unless the DIY kit version isn't fit for mass production...

I already covered the reason for any perceived delays......about 3 posts up.
    
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I already covered the reason for any perceived delays......about 3 posts up.

Yeah, and I don't doubt that's the case. But it does make me wonder why the VG248QE with gsync hasn't been released... maybe ASUS decided to focus on the ROG Swift instead? Or maybe nvidia is tying their hands? Who knows.
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