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Man I'm still waiting on news of a real release date for this monitor. Going to sell off one of my BenQ xl2420t monitors soon in anticipation.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

They already told us what the difficulty was.....

Each module has to be calibrated for the specific panel type it is going to be used in, they didn't expect this. The expected launch was they make the G-sync module, bolt it onto a panel, and it works universally.

What really ended up happening is that G-Sync modules have to be calibrated to each specific panel model, so the timing is correct.

Examples:

What they thought would happen

  • Make G-Sync modules
  • Sell to manufacturers and DIY kits
  • End user, manufacturer or DIY user, bolts it on and is ready to go.

What really ended up happening

  • Make G-Sync module
  • Calibrate module to specific panel
  • Release to end user for that specific panel
  • End user installs module

So it wasn't due to any defect, it was just an additional and unforeseen step required in the process to bring them to market, one that did unfortunately increase the wait time for some situations. Although you can still buy the module for the previously mentioned Asus display, and we have users on the forum with them.
How do you know that the need to tweak each module was unforeseen? Do you have a source?
Quote:
Originally Posted by littledonny View Post

The VG248QE with integrated gsync was supposed to be released by now.
I don't remember hearing about any plan for a "VG248QE with integrated gsync" Do you have a source?
post #2563 of 8206
It amazes me how much of this thread boils down to two arguments - the TN panel will have bad color, and the "delayed release" is because there are problems.

Having worked 10 years in IT for various companies, I have become cynical over the years. Companies want to make money, plain and simple. If they could have released the monitor by now, they would have. Since they haven't, there's obviously a problem. Publicly, companies will always release information that puts them in the best light, so they will never admit there's a problem, even if there's a problem. "Manufacturing shortage" or "unforseen process" is either true, or code-speak for there was a problem that we don't want to let anyone know about. Unless there's a leak from within the company, we will never know.

But I don't care. Neither should anyone here. The monitor will come out when it comes out. It will be good or it will be bad. You will buy it or you won't. All this bickering back and forth about it doesn't matter... you should should take most everything you hear about this monitor with a grain of salt until an actual production model is sitting on someone's desk.

Sorry, just my 2c.
Edited by Leviathan25 - 4/16/14 at 2:16pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leviathan25 View Post

It amazes me how much of this thread boils down to two arguments - the TN panel will have bad color, and the "delayed release" is because there are problems.

Having worked 10 years in IT for various companies, I have become cynical over the years. Companies want to make money, plain and simple. If they could have released the monitor by now, they would have. Since they haven't, there's obviously a problem. Publicly, companies will always release information that puts them in the best light, so they will never admit there's a problem, even if there's a problem. "Manufacturing shortage" or "unforseen process" is either true, or code-speak for there was a problem that we don't want to let anyone know about. Unless there's a leak from within the company, we will never know.

But I don't care. Neither should anyone here. The monitor will come out when it comes out. It will be good or it will be bad. You will buy it or you won't. All this bickering back and forth about it doesn't matter...

Sorry, just my 2c.

..and good 2cee's. Agree with everything in that statement. That's exactly how business is.
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Originally Posted by Hasty View Post

How do you know that the need to tweak each module was unforeseen? Do you have a source?

It has been posted SEVERAL times in this thread already.........

Here; http://overlordforum.com/topic/603-nvidia-g-sync/page-2
Quote:
It will take some time to get G-Sync expanded out even beyond the ASUS unit.



There are several issues here - one is that each G-Sync module must be tuned to the specific panel and PCBs used for that panel. As of now, the OEM makers - ASUS, BENQ, etc have the tech from Nvidia and are implementing them the best way they see fit (read: in whatever way makes them the most money). This goes to my point that people claiming exclusivity have no idea what they are talking about. The tech has been released to OEM makers already. The second issue is that of development. Since the tech must be tuned for each application it means it will take time for the modules to make their way into a bunch of different panel formats since R&D and production is pricey.
    
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Originally Posted by Leviathan25 View Post

It amazes me how much of this thread boils down to two arguments - the TN panel will have bad color, and the "delayed release" is because there are problems.

Having worked 10 years in IT for various companies, I have become cynical over the years. Companies want to make money, plain and simple. If they could have released the monitor by now, they would have. Since they haven't, there's obviously a problem. Publicly, companies will always release information that puts them in the best light, so they will never admit there's a problem, even if there's a problem. "Manufacturing shortage" or "unforseen process" is either true, or code-speak for there was a problem that we don't want to let anyone know about. Unless there's a leak from within the company, we will never know.

But I don't care. Neither should anyone here. The monitor will come out when it comes out. It will be good or it will be bad. You will buy it or you won't. All this bickering back and forth about it doesn't matter... you should should take most everything you hear about this monitor with a grain of salt until an actual production model is sitting on someone's desk.

Sorry, just my 2c.

I agree. I will buy it regardless of when ASUS decides to release it. But as an enthusiast and one of the relatively few in the target demographic, I won't hesitate to express my displeasure on this forum about how ASUS chooses to disseminate information. I won't hesitate to start a debate about it, either. Those of us who have spent thousands on these niche ASUS products over the years deserve more transparency. We are all trying to make the most rational upgrade decisions, and timing in this hobby is very important to get good value out of niche hardware.

Without us, the ASUS ROG department doesn't exist. We deserve better.
Edited by littledonny - 4/16/14 at 3:01pm
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It has been posted SEVERAL times in this thread already.........

Here; http://overlordforum.com/topic/603-nvidia-g-sync/page-2
Let me repeat my question again. This time I'll put the important words in bold.

How do you know that the need to tweak each module was unforeseen? Do you have a source?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

It has been posted SEVERAL times in this thread already.........

Here; http://overlordforum.com/topic/603-nvidia-g-sync/page-2

That didn't answer the question though, which was whether there were a source that indicates that the hand-tuning was unforseen. To my knowledge there isn't one.
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Originally Posted by Leviathan25 View Post

It amazes me how much of this thread boils down to two arguments - the TN panel will have bad color, and the "delayed release" is because there are problems.

Having worked 10 years in IT for various companies, I have become cynical over the years. Companies want to make money, plain and simple. If they could have released the monitor by now, they would have. Since they haven't, there's obviously a problem. Publicly, companies will always release information that puts them in the best light, so they will never admit there's a problem, even if there's a problem. "Manufacturing shortage" or "unforseen process" is either true, or code-speak for there was a problem that we don't want to let anyone know about. Unless there's a leak from within the company, we will never know.

But I don't care. Neither should anyone here. The monitor will come out when it comes out. It will be good or it will be bad. You will buy it or you won't. All this bickering back and forth about it doesn't matter... you should should take most everything you hear about this monitor with a grain of salt until an actual production model is sitting on someone's desk.

Sorry, just my 2c.

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This thread should be locked until we actually get some kind of actual update info from a reliable source....
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