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post #2581 of 8206
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

Honestly, they may have abandoned this ship and to maybe start concentrating on entry level 4k 60hz monitors. Samsung already has an impressive entry ~$600-700. Too bad its TN frown.gif.


A bad-a$$ rog 4k may be in the works later on when technology for 4k becomes more cost effective.

that monitor looks really nice. i fanboyed out too much over gsync to go back now lol. but i could always have both!!
post #2582 of 8206
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Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post

OLED is deteriorating and dies soon. It's organic technology. Unless you want to keep it for 2 years.

OLED is amazing and the lifespan issues are becoming less of a factor as techs figure out ways to increase longevity
post #2583 of 8206
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OLED is amazing and the lifespan issues are becoming less of a factor as techs figure out ways to increase longevity

It will always be organic. What are they going to do? Put it in a jar and feed like fishies?
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that monitor looks really nice. i fanboyed out too much over gsync to go back now lol. but i could always have both!!

so true

I'm really interested in g-sync but that 4k samsung is very attractive
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so true

I'm really interested in g-sync but that 4k samsung is very attractive

They would be for completely different purposes?

Gsync monitors are aimed at fast moving games. 4k monitors are for hi resolution content.
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They would be for completely different purposes?

Gsync monitors are aimed at fast moving games. 4k monitors are for hi resolution content.

exactly! my point was it would be nice to have both, the 4k for single player hi-rez gaming and the ROG for fast paced mp gaming
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It will always be organic. What are they going to do? Put it in a jar and feed like fishies?

I don't know, I'm not a tech :'( all I know is that OLED used to have a really short lifespan but they have been finding ways to increase the longevity and size of oled panels
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It will always be organic. What are they going to do? Put it in a jar and feed like fishies?

Organic doesn't mean alive. A plastic cup is organic, yet it's not alive.

Lifetime has increased dramatically over the last several years. They're not quite there yet, but they're close and making direct, meaningful progress.
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Organic doesn't mean alive. A plastic cup is organic, yet it's not alive.

Yes, it's dead and it degrades. Hey alive degrades too.

Oh I'm just joking with you. I know they can improve it. But I don't claim to hide the fact I'm afraid they won't be able to perfect it.

But OK, if they manage to make a monitor that degrades only after 10 years and that is approximately not noticeable, then they got a product.
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Most plastic cups tend not to degrade, just sayin' boxing3.gif

But in all seriousness, the lifetime improvement even over the past several years has been really substantial.

The issue with OLED lifetime is tricky, though. We're not talking about the sort of lifetime where it works for a while and then stops working. Lifetime in the case of OLEDs means a gradual, exponential falloff in the brightness for a given amount of incoming electrical power. So while your monitor may be nice and bright when you get it, two years later it may be half as bright. That's not acceptable in a consumer product, and the rate at which it falls off has been the target of research.

What makes matters worse is that brightness itself plays a role in lifetime - the harder you drive the OLED, the faster it decays. Which means that nice, high-brightness computer displays have a tradeoff between the brightness that we want and the longevity that we also want.

Even worse still is the fact that the different colors of OLEDs have different decay rates. The red has the slowest decay, green faster, and blue fastest. This is especially bad for a consumer display, because it means that not only do you have a brightness drop, you have a color shift as time goes on. Sure, you could compensate by doing color recalibration periodically, but that's not really a solution.

This isn't meant to be a doom and gloom post, however, as they have been making real progress. OLEDs in mobile are getting to the point of being pretty reliable and very common. This is partly because mobile typically doesn't have as much screen uptime as a desktop display likely would, and the lifetime clock only ticks when the display is on rather than a set amount of time. As far as desktops and tvs, I expect a significant transition over the next several years.
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