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post #2631 of 8206
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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

"Calibrating" a display for games is completely over-rated... and this display is pretty much only designed for gaming.

I totally disagree. But subjective, of course ...

Below is a good example of my own Benq XL2420T before calibration and after calibration. Personally, I find good color saturation and shadow contrast detail to be essential to enjoying any game, really ...

Nothing worse to my eye than washed out, muted colors (which most gaming monitors I've used have when pulled right out of the box):

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UNCALIBRATED MONITOR
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CALIBRATED MONITOR
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But user preference really dictates ...

Myself? I'll take the calibrated route as the colors and shadows are just so much better...

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post #2632 of 8206
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Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post

I totally disagree. But subjective, of course ...

Below is a good example of my own Benq XL2420T before calibration and after calibration. Personally, I find good color saturation and shadow contrast detail to be essential to enjoying any game, really ...

Nothing worse to my eye than washed out, muted colors (which most gaming monitors I've used have when pulled right out of the box):

...

UNCALIBRATED MONITOR
_______________________




...

CALIBRATED MONITOR
_____________________



...

But user preference really dictates ...

Myself? I'll take the calibrated route as the colors and shadows are just so much better...

...

Sorry if that sounds insulting but I find those kinds of posts humorous. It's an artist that created it! You have no idea what he meant to show! i.e. if you do not know what the artist was looking at his screen, you don't know what he meant. It's like those people trying to say "NVIDIA looks better on this screen VS AMD, look" (and vice versa) when there is no reference point! The reference point is the artist, not your subjective point of view. The artist is subjective but he had a certain view. Otherwise, it's all subjective. Operating word, subjective. Only constant is the original artist and his monitor. Unless you assume the calibration of the artist is perfect. You could claim that and it stands as an argument mildly.
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post #2633 of 8206
Most digital artists will work on calibrated displays (not all). I have a feeling there are 2 different topics being posted as one in this thread.

1. Calibrating a display - Calibrating a display is usually calibrating it for optimal color accuracy. This is specifically very important for digital professionals such as artists / photographers so that their work looks correct on the majority of devices / print media.

2. Adjusting a display to look good - The above example is actually the reverse of what I would expect a calibrated display would look like vs an un-calibrated one. Usually calibrated displays will appear to have less contrast / saturation. Adjusting a display to create a mood in a specific game will most likely not look great for all games, so you would need to adjust your display for each game you play or adjust the games gamma to compensate etc.

Calibrating a display doesn't always mean the content you are calibrating it for will "look better" unless you are looking for color accuracy and not a "moody" contrasty saturated image like the one above.
post #2634 of 8206
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Most digital artists will work on calibrated displays (not all).

OK, I admit I was mainly thinking of the silliness of NVIDIA fans fighting with AMD fans (and vice versa) over what is more "accurate" when they don't have a reference! I guess the argument that artists from major studios will probably have calibrated monitors is valid.
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post #2635 of 8206
Has Nvidia fixed custom calibration profiles yet? Last time I tried with my Spyder3 I couldn't get the calibration to stick in full screen games, which is a requirement for G-Sync. AFAIK nvidia doesn't support it and despite multiple people asking they have refused to even comment on it.

I really hope ASUS announces a release date for this monitor yet or at least some info. I've had my tax return for a while now and I planned on purchasing this but I may just pull the trigger on something else. I don't feel like waiting till June/July for a monitor.
post #2636 of 8206
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Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post

Sorry if that sounds insulting but I find those kinds of posts humorous. It's an artist that created it! You have no idea what he meant to show! i.e. if you do not know what the artist was looking at his screen, you don't know what he meant. It's like those people trying to say "NVIDIA looks better on this screen VS AMD, look" (and vice versa) when there is no reference point! The reference point is the artist, not your subjective point of view. The artist is subjective but he had a certain view. Otherwise, it's all subjective. Operating word, subjective. Only constant is the original artist and his monitor. Unless you assume the calibration of the artist is perfect. You could claim that and it stands as an argument mildly.

You can say that, but I thought the whole point of the ridiculously high color fidelity IPS displays was that so that artists do, actually, create what they want to create using real, accurate color. The idea that they intentionally meant for you to see their work on an uncalibrated display is laughable.

If they want to wash out the colors and have things look a bit off, they'll do that themselves rather than saying "Hey, I bet this will look great after it goes through an arbitrary and unknown color filter between me and the eyeballs!"
post #2637 of 8206
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UNCALIBRATED MONITOR
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CALIBRATED MONITOR
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Its only an increasing of gamma value doh.gif
everyone can do it.
post #2638 of 8206
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Originally Posted by senna89 View Post

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Its only an increasing of gamma value doh.gif
everyone can do it.

I really hope this is sarcasm, but I have my doubts...

Gamma is one, but only one, step in display calibration.
post #2639 of 8206
So, Samsung is releasing a 28" 4K 60Hz panel at almost the same price point ($100 less, per reports). It will be interesting to see which wins out: resolution (Samsung) or refresh rate (Asus).

http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/Another-4K-Monitor-Option-Samsung-U28D590D-28-Display-699

I'm thinking Asus will have to drop the price to match the Samsung 4K if they want to compete. My priority is 3D, which of course makes the Asus panel my choice, but at $100 less even I would have to carefully consider if it's worth giving up 3D to get a 4K panel for less money.
Edited by chrisnyc75 - 4/22/14 at 7:09am
post #2640 of 8206
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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

So, Samsung is releasing a 28" 4K 60Hz panel at the same price point. It will be interesting to see which wins out: resolution (Samsung) or refresh rate (Asus).

http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/Another-4K-Monitor-Option-Samsung-U28D590D-28-Display-699

Refresh rate and G-Sync. The latter bit is important.

I'd also be very curious to see how the two TN panels differ on color and angle performance. Asus has been talking a big game about this new, awesome TN panel. Somehow I doubt an $800 4k will be to that level.
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