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Originally Posted by HiTechPixel View Post

You mentioned ULBM in tandem with the G-Sync module but I wonder, has Asus perhaps locked the G-Sync module into ULBM mode or can one possibly run this mode how G-Sync was intended, with variable refresh rates?
I don't know if 1ms is available in GSYNC mode.
If it is, then it's definitely a GtG measurement, and not strobing-assisted. So that 1ms will still have lots of motion blur, since the GtG measurement is not the same thing as a persistence measurement.

From Andy from NVIDIA who posted on NeoGAF:
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Originally Posted by AndyBNV 
“We have a superior, low-persistence mode that should outperform that unofficial [LightBoost] implementation, and importantly, it will be available on every G-SYNC monitor. Details will be available at a later date.”.
I know 1ms persistence is currently not possible without strobing (because 1ms persistence /without/ strobing requires filling all 1ms timeslots with unique frame -- aka 1000fps @ 1000Hz -- which is not possible yet in a consumer monitor today. If this is an IPS or VA panel, then this definitely confirms a LightBoost-like mode of operation, which is now known as ULMB as revealed by people who received their G-SYNC Upgrade Kits. (This bypassed the press embargo on ULMB).

If this is a TN panel, this is almost certainly a basic GtG measurement, which to me is worthless from a motion blur perspective (1ms GtG can still mean 16.7ms of persistence)

To me, 1ms persistence is preferable over 1ms GtG transition. Persistence is the cause of motion blur, not GtG.

Either way, the good news is that regardless, it probably has ULMB anyway (regardless of TN / VA / IPS) since any kind of 1ms claim (GtG or persistence) means a panel capable of a good strobe backlight, which can fix the motion blur. Nowadays, with ULMB / LightBoost / Turbo240 / BENQ Blur Reduction (four different brands of strobe backlights) -- it would be silly this year in 2014 for any gaming monitor maker to omit an optional strobe backlight from *any* panel capable of 1ms.

However, it's my opinion that ULMB would only be available in non-GSYNC mode on this monitor. So G-SYNC would be a higher-persistence mode (6.9ms persistence at 144fps, or 8.3ms persistence at 120fps). On current G-SYNC monitors, persistence is inversely proportional to framerate -- that's the variable blur/ghosting effect widely reported by G-SYNC users (as framerate slows down, the motion blur increases -- 60fps looks like 60fps@60Hz, and 120fps looks like 120fps@120Hz with half the motion blur -- except there's a complete continuum between low framerates and high framerates on a G-SYNC monitors)
Edited by mdrejhon - 1/6/14 at 1:46pm
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Yeah, that'll be my next monitor.
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This is more than I was hoping for. I know exactly what my next pc related purchase is going to be.
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Originally Posted by mdrejhon View Post

I don't know if 1ms is available in GSYNC mode.
If it is, then it's definitely a GtG measurement, and not strobing-assisted. So that 1ms will still have lots of motion blur.

From Andy from NVIDIA who posted on NeoGAF:
I know 1ms persistence is currently not possible without strobing (because 1ms persistence /without/ strobing requires filling all 1ms timeslots with unique frame -- aka 1000fps @ 1000Hz -- which is not possible yet in a consumer monitor today. If this is an IPS or VA panel, then this definitely confirms a LightBoost-like mode of operation, which is now known as ULMB as revealed by people who received their G-SYNC Upgrade Kits. (This bypassed the press embargo on ULMB).

If this is a TN panel, this is almost certainly a basic GtG measurement, which to me is worthless from a motion blur perspective (1ms GtG can still mean 16.7ms of persistence)

To me, 1ms persistence is preferable over 1ms GtG transition. Persistence is the cause of motion blur, not GtG.

Interesting. here's hoping it's IPS with the ULBM on.
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probably not a worthy upgrade over my 1080p/120hz/soon to be gsync monitors. but im loving this nonetheless
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Done - SOLD

I love my Dell u2711, but G-Sync with 120hz? This is what I have been waiting for!

Wait...

What type of panel?
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People arguing about 120hz and gaming, please jump over to the ROG monitor thread, this thread is for those wanting a 4k monitor that is CAPABLE of gaming too.
 
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Hopefully ASUS doesn't kill the hype by confirming it's a TN. But I don't think one would design a TN for 1440p right?
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