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Originally Posted by JoHnYBLaZe View Post

Have you ever owned a korean IPS or any 1440 ips for that matter to compare said TN panels with?

We get it. You like IPS panels, and the rest of us are ignorant if we use anything else for any other reason. Got it. Thanks. smile.gif
post #512 of 8206
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Originally Posted by the9quad View Post

I love super human people that can tell the difference and react between 1ms vs 6ms. Yeah for marketing! In b4 "pro" gamers "cough" claim otherwise.

The only advantage this monitor has is blur reduction, and gsync period. If that's important to you, than this is your monitor. If your claiming 1ms is noticeable to you versus 6ms well your the bionic man and you should be getting paid to play games, if not well...

You don't seem to understand how response time is being measured, there are multiple ways of doing it and the numbers can be very drastic. I was reading an article recently that stated almost every IPS, because of how they function, has a true response time of closer to 12ms or higher. There is even an article showing the new Eizo FG2421 which is a 1ms VA panel having input latency upwards of 19ms, depending on how it was measured.

Refresh rate seems to be a little like "contrast", in that various companies measure it differently, as there isn't an industry standard on how to do it that they all follow.

Now I personally didn't notice a difference in input latency going from my previous Samsung TN to this Overlord IPS, but the Samsung TN wasn't an ultra high end display, it wasn't complete trash though.
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Originally Posted by JoHnYBLaZe View Post

Have you ever owned a korean IPS or any 1440 ips for that matter to compare said TN panels with?

I literally have purchased 3 Koreans and 1 Overlord Tempest X27OC, which uses the same panel. My Tempest is 120Hz 1440P IPS, and it still leave something to be desired. Back light bleed on IPS can be pretty brutal, mine isn't too shabby, and black levels of IPS are washed out due to the tech.

So to say IPS is the end all be all, that isn't right at all. I would have loved to see a VA panel in this new Asus display, but from the video it looks like they have put in the best of the best of TN.
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Not paying $800 for a TN panel. Nope.
IPS or go home ASUS!
post #514 of 8206
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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

We get it. You like IPS panels, and the rest of us are ignorant if we use anything else for any other reason. Got it. Thanks. smile.gif

smile.gif

Good point. I've had a bunch of high end monitors, Samsung S27A950D (3 of them), couple of Asus 144hz, 3 of the Korean junk monitors, plus I have two Dell 27" IPS monitors (for work purposes).

Easy to compare when I can move them beside each other.

For work and video playback, IPS all the way. For gaming, TN all the way.
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Have you ever owned a korean IPS or any 1440 ips for that matter to compare said TN panels with?

sure...

i work in a computer shop!!!

ahahahhahah

I've had more 'monitor how you and your friends do you have in a lifetime.
Edited by Andrea deluxe - 1/7/14 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by xentrox View Post

I have a Lenovo IPS at work alongside ThinkPad T540 that takes care of all my super fine graphics work. (I'm a UI designer).

At home, when I get back from work, I play Battlefield 4 most of the time. It's all I have purposed this computer for. Would the game look better with an IPS? Damn straight it would, and as it should. Can I play on an IPS screen? The answer is simply, No. The input lag, and artificating on even the OC'd Overlords is just not worth my time. I would rather sacrifice a bit of image quality and get the most fluid gameplay experience possible.

And hey man, remember, that to each his own wink.gif

Not to sound rude, but how are you having artifacts on an OC'd Overlord? Are you running 1 or 2 monitors at 120Hz or less?

I'm using 2 270OC in desktop extended at 96hz on a 2x EVGA 670ftw+ setup and I'm not having any issues with artifacts. Most games they aren't even in SLI either. I can keep most settings at very high-ultra, aa really isn't need outside of maybe 2x. Everything has been gtg in my experience.

I like to have a tv show or movie playing on one monitor, while playing on the other. If it gets a little chuggy to the point it bothers me, I just SLI and switch to a single monitor.

ETA: I feel like I did get pretty lucky with my 270OC's though. First batch and I have one stuck pixel between them. Stuck on white, but it really isn't that noticeable even in dark scenes from movies or games.
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I'll see this panel in person today or tomorrow and Ill let you know how it compares to the IPS PB278 in terms of colors and angles.


Please let us also know if it is full matte or semi gloss anti-reflection film. thumb.gif
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however, people do not have technical knowledge and can not even understand the difference between pixel response time and refresh rate ...

people do not understand that these korean monitors are able to accept input at 120Hz but fail to reproduce all 120 frames by pixel slowness

OVERDRIVE IS NEEDED AND KOREAN MONITOR DOES NOT HAVE ANY OVERDRIVE
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Originally Posted by Clazman55 View Post

Not to sound rude, but how are you having artifacts on an OC'd Overlord? Are you running 1 or 2 monitors at 120Hz or less?

I'm using 2 270OC in desktop extended at 96hz on a 2x EVGA 670ftw+ setup and I'm not having any issues with artifacts. Most games they aren't even in SLI either. I can keep most settings at very high-ultra, aa really isn't need outside of maybe 2x. Everything has been gtg in my experience.

I like to have a tv show or movie playing on one monitor, while playing on the other. If it gets a little chuggy to the point it bothers me, I just SLI and switch to a single monitor.

ETA: I feel like I did get pretty lucky with my 270OC's though. First batch and I have one stuck pixel between them. Stuck on white, but it really isn't that noticeable even in dark scenes from movies or games.

Not using a proper gauge DVI cable to the display will cause it, as you exceed the bandwidth of that cable. Also, if the display itself isn't capable of being stable at those refresh rates, you will get it as well. Also, horizontal lines (green usually) is an indication you are running at a higher RR than the display will handle.

Something to remember on the Tempests is they are 60Hz with the potential for 120Hz, and while they were assembled to give you the best chance of hitting 120Hz, it isn't a guarantee.

Brief rant:

Before people go off about DL-DVI not having the bandwidth for 120Hz 1440P, just stop. The association behind the specification stated that the interface itself does have the bandwidth, it is purely a matter of the source (gpu) and the delivery means (cable) being able to handle it. I run 120Hz at 1440P, so do many people, if DVI couldn't handle it, then we wouldn't be doing it.

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Please let us also know if it is full matte or semi gloss anti-reflection film. thumb.gif

This as well.....

Because I am really excited about the prospects of 780 Ti in SLi with one of these.....glad I didn't pull the trigger on the Eizo and waited for CES.

(No jab intended at you Vega)
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Are there any mass production 1440p TN panels being adopted by companies presently? None that I know of. So it would be fair to say that this panel is an Asus product from scratch so they would have the control over how "good" it is- be it for fast response times or color reproduction.
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