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I question that as well. I'd really like to see exactly what FPS games these guys that are backing TN panels for gaming are playing. It made zero difference for me switching from a 120hz TN to my current 60hz 1440p in games like BF3/BF4/FC3/C3 etc. Maybe it was the type of IPS monitor they were using. My PB278Q does a fantastic job at limiting any noticeable ghosting or lag. In fact those who are claiming superiority on a TN panel 120hz please share battle log. I'd like to see these results first hand.

I can say that a crappy IPS can have noticeable input latency over a high end TN. Even back in the day when LCDs first came out and a lot of us competitive players used CRT, there was a very noticeable latency.

Though to be fair that was at a time when 20ms on an LCD was the norm.. Generally speaking, anything under the ~8ms mark it is very hard to tell the difference, at least that seems to be a pretty safe consensus.

As for this new ROG SWIFT, I am more interested in the G-Sync, 1440P with a native 120Hz+
    
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I question that as well. I'd really like to see exactly what FPS games these guys that are backing TN panels for gaming are playing. It made zero difference for me switching from a 120hz TN to my current 60hz 1440p in games like BF3/BF4/FC3/C3 etc. Maybe it was the type of IPS monitor they were using. My PB278Q does a fantastic job at limiting any noticeable ghosting or lag. In fact those who are claiming superiority on a TN panel 120hz please share battle log. I'd like to see these results first hand.


This is my current score using a TN panel. Note only 1 vehicle kill biggrin.gif

I was using one of my Dells for a couple weeks (27" IPS) while waiting on my Asus 144hz. My KDR average during that time was around 1.22.

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Zero difference is definitely stretching the truth. I play a lot of Counter Strike Source and GO, Battlefield 3 and 4 as well as Skyrim and a good chunk of single player games. When my strobed TN isn't helping me get kills, it's making games look butter smooth. I couldn't care less about colors.

Its far more then colors. The contrast and sharpness (graphics) are strikingly better in 1440p vs 1080p. That's why most people with high end rigs use 1440p or higher. This is the main reason this Monitor is such a big deal. So many sacrificed a little bit of smoothness to have better graphics. Now you can have both.
 
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Its far more then colors. The contrast and sharpness (graphics) are strikingly better in 1440p vs 1080p. That's why most people with high end rigs use 1440p or higher. This is the main reason this Monitor is such a big deal. So many sacrificed a little bit of smoothness to have better graphics. Now you can have both.

Which is why I will be throwing my money at Asus the second this monitor is released thumb.gif
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This is my current score using a TN panel. Note only 1 vehicle kill biggrin.gif

I was using one of my Dells for a couple weeks (27" IPS) while waiting on my Asus 144hz. My KDR average during that time was around 1.22.


I would agree completely. I can't have anything less than 120 Hz, period. I have my machine configured to basically run a constant 122 FPS in BF4 with a few very slight dips to the 105-110 range, and it is just an amazing experience. I have another machine that has a 60 Hz monitor and it absolutely makes my eyes bleed. It's a 3770K with a 780 (very fast system for 1080P) and it feels unbelievably slow and unresponsive compared to my gamer with 5760x1080 at 120 Hz. I don't have any hard numbers, but when I bought these VG248QE's last February my performance in Battlefield instantly got significantly better. Today, there just isn't any way I can be without it.

As far as what games we're playing to demand 120 Hz, any online shooter or racing/driving game would do the trick. I basically exclusively play Battlefield, but I think I'd want the same advantage in any other fast-paced online shooter as well.
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I would agree completely. I can't have anything less than 120 Hz, period. I have my machine configured to basically run a constant 122 FPS in BF4 with a few very slight dips to the 105-110 range, and it is just an amazing experience. I have another machine that has a 60 Hz monitor and it absolutely makes my eyes bleed. It's a 3770K with a 780 (very fast system for 1080P) and it feels unbelievably slow and unresponsive compared to my gamer with 5760x1080 at 120 Hz. I don't have any hard numbers, but when I bought these VG248QE's last February my performance in Battlefield instantly got significantly better. Today, there just isn't any way I can be without it.

As far as what games we're playing to demand 120 Hz, any online shooter or racing/driving game would do the trick. I basically exclusively play Battlefield, but I think I'd want the same advantage in any other fast-paced online shooter as well.

I had hard numbers in my case because it took me a week to realize why I was doing so poorly.

Send me a friend request in BF4 (RobilarFrost). Seems like we play the same way thumb.gif
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I would agree completely. I can't have anything less than 120 Hz, period. I have my machine configured to basically run a constant 122 FPS in BF4 with a few very slight dips to the 105-110 range, and it is just an amazing experience. I have another machine that has a 60 Hz monitor and it absolutely makes my eyes bleed. It's a 3770K with a 780 (very fast system for 1080P) and it feels unbelievably slow and unresponsive compared to my gamer with 5760x1080 at 120 Hz. I don't have any hard numbers, but when I bought these VG248QE's last February my performance in Battlefield instantly got significantly better. Today, there just isn't any way I can be without it.

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Its far more then colors. The contrast and sharpness (graphics) are strikingly better in 1440p vs 1080p. That's why most people with high end rigs use 1440p or higher. This is the main reason this Monitor is such a big deal. So many sacrificed a little bit of smoothness to have better graphics. Now you can have both.

I am one of the very very very very few people that suffers from motion sickness easily, and is sensitive to FOV.

I literally can not play a FPS that is at 60Hz and a low FOV. If I can adjust the FOV then I can play at 60 for a bit, but I have limits. So 120Hz helps A LOT in my FPS, and being able to adjust FOV is hugely important as well.

So when people tell me "120Hz made me a better player", there is some truth in that. Having that fluidity can be a bonus, with all other things being equal.
    
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I question that as well. I'd really like to see exactly what FPS games these guys that are backing TN panels for gaming are playing. It made zero difference for me switching from a 120hz TN to my current 60hz 1440p in games like BF3/BF4/FC3/C3 etc. Maybe it was the type of IPS monitor they were using. My PB278Q does a fantastic job at limiting any noticeable ghosting or lag. In fact those who are claiming superiority on a TN panel 120hz please share battle log. I'd like to see these results first hand.

BattleField has a low skill cap and low skill gap. Not the ideal game to really see stats. You would be much better off looking at stats from CS:GO/Quake/etc
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BattleField has a low skill cap and low skill gap. Not the ideal game to really see stats. You would be much better off looking at stats from CS:GO/Quake/etc
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Please go. I could keep a 2.00 KDR on CSS on my office desktop. Brb forward/slide left/slide right/backwards and crouch. Simple and easy as all hell. Meanwhile in BF4 I not only have to worry about other soldiers but tanks/heli's/jets/and many other obstacle's raining fire down on my arse. CS was cool back in the 90's. Today there are so many other better options out there.
 
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it's kinda scary that a tn panel will cost this much.
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