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post #611 of 8206
Asus already has my money for this monitor, they just don't know it yet biggrin.gif
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post #612 of 8206
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Originally Posted by CaliLife17 View Post

SO why judge the product right now before you have seen a single monitor in person? As you say "believe it when i see it"

Why not just wait and judge with your own eyes, instead of just writing it off now?

I am not "writing it off" I am saying $800 for a TN panel is ridiculous. It is ridiculous.
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post #613 of 8206
If this new TN panel really does match eIPS in image quality, that'll be great. When reviewers/people do get to have a good hands-on, hopefully this supposed up in quality defeats gamma shift. Probably won't happen, maybe, I guess...?
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I'm sure there are plenty of people who will disagree. I am one of them. 800 is a steal.
Edited by SeeThruHead - 1/7/14 at 9:31pm
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post #615 of 8206
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I'll believe that when I see it. I have never seen a TN panel that could rival even one of the lower end IPS panel types in image quality. Also does not come anywhere close to justifying the price.

A 27" 1440P 120Hz+ G-Sync 1ms (It will do 144Hz according to Asus, as shown a page or so back) display doesn't justify $800? So how does every IPS or other "high end" display justify their cost?
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A 27" 1440P 120Hz+ (It will due 144Hz according to Asus, as shown a page or so back) display doesn't justify $800? So how does every IPS or other "high end" display justify their cost?

Image quality of IPS over TN. Hey, obviously I am stepping on some toes here. I have spent this much money on a monitor, just not a TN panel. I have owned a ton of different monitors and our shop has sold a ton of different monitors, high end, low end, etc. I have never seen a TN panel that matches the image quality of an IPS, not even close.

It strikes me that Nvidia and Asus are cashing in on G-Sync to release a monitor with a very high margin. Maybe I'm wrong. That is what it looks like to me. Not releasing an IPS version seems like a big lost opportunity, but again, with pricing at $800 it appears to me that they are trying to get a higher than average gross margin out of this model.
Edited by Mygaffer - 4/8/14 at 8:16pm
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Image quality of IPS over TN. Hey, obviously I am stepping on some toes here. I have spent this much money on a monitor, just not a TN panel. I have owned a ton of different monitors and our shop has sold a ton of different monitors, high end, low end, etc. I have never seen a TN panel that matches the image quality of an IPS, not even close.

It strikes me that Nvidia and Asus are cashing on G-Sync to release a monitor with a very high margin. Maybe I'm wrong. That is what it looks like to me. Not releasing an IPS version seems like a big lost opportunity, but again, with pricing at $800 it appears to me that they are trying to get a higher than average gross margin out of this model.

I would imagine IPS' slower refresh rate (and possible input lag) is the reason that Nvidia hasn't incorporated g-sync into it.

The higher cost is because of G-sync and that i think this is the first 1440p TN style panel, and first mainstream 1440p monitor that does 120hz (outside of Korean monitors, that isn't nearly as mainstream as something from asus, viewsonic, or LG for monitors) EDIT: Plus anything geared towards "gamers" or with ROG label on it will also always add a premium

I don't think we can argue its cost until there have been reviews and real consumers start using it. Also Value and worth are so subjective that $800 to one person is much different than $800 to someone else.
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I would imagine IPS' slower refresh rate (and possible input lag) is the reason that Nvidia hasn't incorporated g-sync into it.

The higher cost is because of G-sync and that i think this is the first 1440p TN style panel, and first mainstream 1440p monitor that does 120hz (outside of Korean monitors, that isn't nearly as mainstream as something from asus, viewsonic, or LG for monitors)

I don't think we can argue its cost until there have been reviews and real consumers start using it. Also Value and worth are so subjective that $800 to one person is much different than $800 to someone else.

We have a few clues as to costs though, don't we? For a while Overlord were selling the Tempest270OC, which was an IPS panel, 2560x1440 panel that ran at 120Hz. They sold for $200 less than what Asus is trying to sell this monitor for.

They will be selling the G-Sync upgrade kit of the VG248QE eventually, that pricing will give us some idea of the cost of the G-Sync board, but I guarantee you it does not break $100.

But hey, I understand why someone would be interested. It is just obvious they are selling this as a premium product and are putting a premium margin on it. Buy if you are prepared to pay that margin, I'll be waiting for something better.
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Doesn't look like Asus has plans to sell the DIY board. If that is the case, Prices could stay high on it, and you will only be able to upgrade it if you send it to someone. Will be interesting to see if anyone starts selling just the module

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?42320-release-date-for-G-SYNC-upgrade-on-VG248QE&p=359127#post359127

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We never supported this unofficial upgrade path, it was Nvidia that was offering it actually. It strongly suspect it will be limited to pre-upgraded parts in NA region only.

Only thing with the Korean Monitors is you didnt have a warranty and was a dice roll with backlight bleeding and dead pixels. Though i believe frys and micro-center started carrying them which helps alot if you get a dud.
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Doesn't look like Asus has plans to sell the DIY board. If that is the case, Prices could stay high on it, and you will only be able to upgrade it if you send it to someone. Will be interesting to see if anyone starts selling just the module

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?42320-release-date-for-G-SYNC-upgrade-on-VG248QE&p=359127#post359127
Only thing with the Korean Monitors is you didnt have a warranty and was a dice roll with backlight bleeding and dead pixels. Though i believe frys and micro-center started carrying them which helps alot if you get a dud.

Considering that the DIY kit has an very expensive ($300) FPGA for rapid prototyping, I'm not surprised that the kits are rare.
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