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This image says it all, though. Lightboost @120hz, 10% vs a 120hz ips with worse response time? It's surely more than slightly noticable

do you use lightboost? Do you notice lots of screen tearing with lightboost that's not there without lightboost? Obviously we are assuming V Sync Off.
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At 120hz, not particularly. Less than @60hz on my old screen
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This image says it all, though. Lightboost @120hz, 10% vs a 120hz ips with worse response time? It's surely more than slightly noticable

i would say it's more like this and even less noticeable when your playing a game:

http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/60vs120vslb/

The color shift/color quality/viewing angles on the other hand are a bigger compromise to me.

You see this is to me personally, to you it may be the other way. But than again. I am reasonable, and I understand different people are more sensitive to different things, I'm also smart enough to understand that either way you go you are making a sacrifice. One day we will have a perfect monitor, until than we will have people swearing only "true" gamers use "x" monitor, when truth of the matter is, different people adapt to different things, and the amount of blur at 120hz without strobe isn't gonna hamper anyones gameplay at all, it might not be what they prefer, but that's a different argument and very subjective.

also I think the monitor this thread is about is a nice monitor, and would make alot of people happy.
Edited by the9quad - 1/10/14 at 10:35pm
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They would be aimed at completely different uses?
For me its mostly gaming and watching Anime. Higher resolution is just too good to pass up. 120hz and 1440P are two features that have been either/or until now.

1080p is unplayable for me especially on a TN panel, the image quality is just pure crap, and the colors are all washed out. I may as well become a console gamer at that point. It would be like being forced to watch a DVD or listen to music with onboard audio. I would cringe because im used to a higher standard, and 120hz isn't that big of a deal to make such a sacrifice.


1440P and IPS are just that good. 120hz 1440P is something I have been wanting to try, but if they are going to release cheap($700) 4K monitor then its a tough choice. Not to mention their is a 3rd monitor in the running which is the 21:9 1440P screen from Dell.

All have their unique feature for gaming. 120hz, 4k resolution, or more horizontal FOV. All have their place for gaming, its just hard to choose which. For me I want the most beautiful graphics possible, even if I have to mod a game to achieve it.

Ultimately I will have to do a side by side comparison of 2K and 4K then choose from there.
Edited by BeerPowered - 1/10/14 at 10:39pm
post #885 of 8206
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At 120hz, not particularly. Less than @60hz on my old screen

I remember the BlurBusters site owner here said that lightboost makes screen tearing more visible, so if let's say you have your fps capped at 132 and didn't seen screen tearing, strobed you would
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post #886 of 8206
I'm not sure if anyone here can give me a good answer on this but i was reading the offical Asus ROG monitor webpage and something caught my eye on their FAQ section
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Why is the display TN rather than IPS/PVA/MVA, etc?

Not all TN’s are made the same: the premium panel used in the PG278Q is of very high quality. IPS panels (and their derivatives like PVA/MVA etc) are not suitable for a multitude of reasons: 1) the response rate is simply not fast enough to react to the active change in refresh rate and 2) They cannot reliably achieve >60Hz without significantly affecting the quality of the image. IGZO technology (and LTPS – low temperature polysilicon – likewise) – yields 100′s of times faster electron mobility versus standard amorphous silicon panels – and thus can provide a response rate comparable to TN (up to 60Hz currently), but, however desirable this technology is, it is still currently cost prohibitively for many PC gaming enthusiasts in 2014, which is why ROG has used a better price:performance, high quality TN panel.

So from what Asus is saying in that FAQ does that mean that IPS/PVA/MVA panels can't support G-Sync/FreeSync at all or do we need to wait for IPS/PVA/MVA panels to have faster response rates or refresh rates(Hz)? Can IPS/PVA/MVA panels get to TN panels response rates or is that not possible?

My other questions are what is IGZO/LTPS and is that any good compared to TN/IPS/PVA/MVA?
How expensive is IGZO/LTPS monitors?
Edited by decoy11 - 1/11/14 at 3:30am
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I'm not sure if anyone here can give me a good answer on this but i was reading the offical Asus ROG monitor webpage and something caught my eye on their FAQ section
So from what Asus is saying in that FAQ does that mean that IPS/PVA/MVA panels can't support G-Sync/FreeSync at all or do we need to wait for IPS/PVA/MVA panels to have faster response rates or refresh rates(Hz)? Can IPS/PVA/MVA panels get to TN panels response rates or is that not possible?

My other questions are what is IGZO/LTPS and is that any good compared to TN/IPS/PVA/MVA?
How expensive is IGZO/LTPS monitors?
G-sync doesn't care what the refresh rate or panel technology is, Asus went with TN because they wanted a fast cheap panel.
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The senseless complaints of TN panel are too high, wait for reviews before judgement + this is a monitor designed for gaming with higer rez than standard at 120hz+, and half of you guys are complaining about it? and if you where gaming with IPS in the first place then obviously you are not the target market, take a look at ASUS IPS line instead.
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For me its mostly gaming and watching Anime. Higher resolution is just too good to pass up. 120hz and 1440P are two features that have been either/or until now.

1080p is unplayable for me especially on a TN panel, the image quality is just pure crap, and the colors are all washed out. I may as well become a console gamer at that point. It would be like being forced to watch a DVD or listen to music with onboard audio. I would cringe because im used to a higher standard, and 120hz isn't that big of a deal to make such a sacrifice.


1440P and IPS are just that good. 120hz 1440P is something I have been wanting to try, but if they are going to release cheap($700) 4K monitor then its a tough choice. Not to mention their is a 3rd monitor in the running which is the 21:9 1440P screen from Dell.

All have their unique feature for gaming. 120hz, 4k resolution, or more horizontal FOV. All have their place for gaming, its just hard to choose which. For me I want the most beautiful graphics possible, even if I have to mod a game to achieve it.

Ultimately I will have to do a side by side comparison of 2K and 4K then choose from there.


I'm the very opposite: gameplay over pretty effects. When it comes to sound I wouldn't even hear a difference between a sound card and onboard audio. All I care about is positional audio biggrin.gif
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It's good to see monitors moving in the direction people have wanted for a while. I've always seen comments on how much people want an official 1440p 120Hz+ monitor. I find it interesting but would be more so to me if it was IPS tongue.gif

Even so, I don't think I'd want to pay the premium price tag for it being a "ROG" monitor.
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