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Case: Antec ISK 110 or smaller
CPU: A10-7850k??
RAM: Gskill Sniper 2400
Mobo: We'll see, ITX obv.
SSDs: Kingston V300 60GB for OS + drivers, Samsung 830 256GB for rest

My only concern here is the power consumption, so... release it already!
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Gnna lay my entire build out, shoulda done that last time:

Cpu: 7850k
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-F2A88XN-WIFI
Memory: 8gb Corsair Vengeance 2133
Case: Silverstone RVZ01
SSD: 32/60gb SanDisk
HDD: 2tb Seagate Barracuda
Gpu: MSI Twin Frozer 7950
Psu: Silverstone ST45SF-G 450w full modular
ODD: Slim BD/DVD burner
OS: Windows 8.1


Should make a hell of a console replacement biggrin.gif
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I believe MS Paint can help me out:



I'm thinking:

-mITX
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-A small screen to monitor battery life and system resource usage at all times (360p is almost too big)
-USB hubs
-Integrated TKL mechanical keyboard using Clears (tactile but not clicky so they can multitask for typing and gaming and so strangers won't want to strangle me)
-Big SSD or two (I don't trust mechanical drives for mobile usage anymore)
-Closed loop (quiet, lightweight, low stress on the backplate, low power)
-Additional GPU, likely a 2GB 260X
-2x4GB 2133MHz or even 2400MHz RAM
-Small PSU, SFX looks like a good form factor
-A UPS w/ additional battery pack (or just one big UPS)
-A padded shock resistant hard case to hold everything
-Awesome paint job

The only problem I can foresee is UPS' usage of lead-acid batteries which don't like to be moved around if at all avoidable. The PSU might be difficult to route cables with too in the closed space, and I'm not sure how well closed-loops handle shock. On paper, this is the greatest LAN rig in the world. In practice, who knows? If somebody steals this idea, I will be extremely happy.
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one of the theoretical advantages (because right now it's all theoretical) of the new a10, is that you can crossfire it. Crossfired 7750s are right about exactly a 560ti in performance. This is slower than a 7850, but not by a whole lot. This would make it either a great game machine at 720p or a usable game machine at 1080p. a 7750 can be had for about $75. they're quiet and exteremly low power consumption. There is also the option of the 260x. They go for $140 though.

Crossfired HD7750 GDDR5 can perform about on par or better than the 560Ti (like an HD7850 with scaling losses).

An HD7750 crossfired with an APU with shared system memory will not perform like crossfired HD7750 GDDR5 cards. It will perform WORSE than crossfired HD7750 DDR3 cards because it is still an asymmetric configuration by nature limited by DDR3 speeds. Theoretically performance could improve to somewhere in-between if AMD can work out a way to split workloads asymmetrically, (they have thrown some bullets up that suggest this is the goal, but I'll reserve judgement till we see it in action).
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Honestly, I'd get a Kaveri laptop. That's where it belongs, and I plan on doing it biggrin.gif

Is there a launch date for mobile Kaveri CPUs? By the way, I thought the HP Envy laptops with AMD A10 CPUs are quite nice. I played with them at Best Buy and WalMart, and they seem to be well built, light (but not ultrabook light) and quite nice overall. However, you can have them ordered much cheaper directly from HP web site, and configured with optional discrete graphics and 1080p screen, something I haven't seen in local stores. The whole package with 15 inch 1080p screen and 8750M graphics adds up to $700 on HP's web site, which is a nice deal for a high performance portable IMO. I do wonder about power consumption, heat, and battery life. Tests show that the desktop Intel CPUs stay within their TDP envelope, but AMD CPUs do not.
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Honestly, I'd get a Kaveri laptop. That's where it belongs, and I plan on doing it biggrin.gif

Is there a launch date for mobile Kaveri CPUs? By the way, I thought the HP Envy laptops with AMD A10 CPUs are quite nice. I played with them at Best Buy and WalMart, and they seem to be well built, light (but not ultrabook light) and quite nice overall. However, you can have them ordered much cheaper directly from HP web site, and configured with optional discrete graphics and 1080p screen, something I haven't seen in local stores. The whole package with 15 inch 1080p screen and 8750M graphics adds up to $700 on HP's web site, which is a nice deal for a high performance portable IMO. I do wonder about power consumption, heat, and battery life. Tests show that the desktop Intel CPUs stay within their TDP envelope, but AMD CPUs do not.

Ya, I have a llano dv6 myself, and they're great for the money. I'm not sure about Trinity/Richland, but you could undervolt/overclock llano to the moon, and set the idle to a ridiculously low speed/voltage for good battery life. The thing idles as long as my sister's Ivy Bridge ultrabook, which is pretty astounding.

However, you should go Intel if you want a discrete GPU. Hybrid crossfire isn't what it's cracked up to be, and it's hard to beat Intel's CPU... where these APUs shine are in $500-$700 laptops, where you can get something small and reasonably built without the extra cost and battery drain of a discrete GPU or the ridiculous Intel tax and drivers of Iris Pro graphics.
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Why is hybrid crossfire bad? Not enough power or too much stuttering? If it's not enough power, then you're arguably right. However, we're talking laptops here. If it's stuttering, Kaveri should be fixing that. That was an issue with GCN 1.0 using the PCIe bus to crossfire. It works, but it does so horribly. GCN 1.1 has no problems; look at 290(X)s in crossfire if you don't believe me.
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so much theorizing on so little data.. this is like egyptology for hardware. I am content to wait for the benchmarks. We're trying to count our chickens not even with unhatched eggs, but from opinions on how that rooster is eying a particular hen.
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so much theorizing on so little data.. this is like egyptology for hardware. I am content to wait for the benchmarks. We're trying to count our chickens not even with unhatched eggs, but from opinions on how that rooster is eying a particular hen.
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For my first Kaveri build (My first computer build ever) Ill be using either the new Silvertstone itx case or some htpc case

If Hybrid Crossfiring turns out for the better with Kaveri, I will upgrade my case to a Bitfenix Colossus and grab a Radeon 7850 or whatever works smile.gif
Edited by AMD Buttbeard - 1/12/14 at 12:42pm
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