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Hi All, I was hoping you guys could help me get my next system spec'd up... Apologies for this being long, but I've tried to include all the bits of info I think you might need in order to help me.

The main thing you guys are going to want to know is, what the system will mainly be used for...

It will be used mainly for photoshop work, along with occasional video editing... and other general work use - which is web design. (Yes, I will try overclocking too - only done basic oc'ing before but hope to go a bit further this time round :-))

Will I play games on it? Tbh, prob not, but I may do once in a blue moon, and I may give it a go and get carried away, hence I have kept my options open and put in a 1950pro, but in all honesty I may never play a game on it (sorry I know that doesn't help much!).

Anyway here's the gear:


ASUS P5B DLX/WIFI-AP Pentium 4/Celeron/Pentium D/PentiumEE/65nm dual-core/Core2Duo/Core2EE (side note, its the same price as the non wifi)
£124.94 ($242.12)
OR
ASUS COMMANDO
EXTRA £20 ($38.61)
(This is due out next week here, so will prob go for this, unless you guys think otherwise)

Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86ghz - Skt775 Fsb1066 2mb Cache Boxed In
£120.01 ($232.57)
OR
Core 3 Duo E6600
EXTRA £80 ($154.44)

Sapphire X1950Pro 256MB 256bit GDDR3 Dual DVI TVO PCI-E
£116.99 ($226.72)
OR
Sapphire X1950Pro 512MB
EXTRA £25 ($48.26)

Antec SLK3000B Black Super Mid Tower Case - No PSU
£29.98 ($58.09)

Hiper 580W Type-R Modular PSU SLI/CrossFire Certified - Blue
£57.58 ($111.58)

Seagate ST3250624AS 250GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache
£55.19 ($106.94)

Thermaltake Big Typhoon 4 in 1 Heatpipe (Socket 939/754/775/478) CPU Cooler
£29.32 ($56.82)

Microsoft Windows Vista Business 64-Bit Edition DVD - OEM - 1Pk
£93.99 ($182.15)

Pioneer DVR-111BK 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer
£21.56 ($41.77)

G.Skill 2GB DDR2 PK PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 Dual Channel Kit (F2-6400
800MHz RAM Speed, CAS 4-4-4-12 Timings, 1.9-2.1v VDIMM
£176.24 ($341.49)
OR
2GB CorsairTwinX XMS2 Dominator, (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-6400,240 Pins, NonECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, EPP
EXTRA £19 ($36.67)


GRAND TOTAL BASIC: £825.80 ($1,594.21)

OR

GRAND TOTAL With all EXTRAS (e6600, Dominator Ram, 512MB 1950pro, Asus Commando): £969.80 ($1,872.20)


I was going to get this monitor:

Samsung SM205BW 20 inch WSXGA+ TFT LCD Monitor 700:1 300cd/m2 1680 x 1050 6ms DVI
£199.99 ($387.47)

But If I get the Commando, e6600, 512MB 1950pro and Dominator ram then I will leave the monitor and get it later in the year instead (it will prob be cheaper then anyway).

I guess my main question is, is it worth going for the e6600 over the e6300 Core2? And is the Corsair Dominator ram really that much better than the GSKIL? How about the extra 256MB on the graphics card, will I notice the difference? I guess if I go for the 'extras' it will mean I have to wait a good few months for a new monitor, but I really don't mind as my CRT is doing ok.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

(PS I'm very open to ideas - none of the above is a definate 'must')
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post #2 of 20
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For those interested in the Commando... check out the specs here: http://zeus.asus.com/HQ/products.asp...80&modelmenu=1

Looks V nice!
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Anyone?....
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post #4 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brook View Post
is it worth going for the e6600 over the e6300 Core2? And is the Corsair Dominator ram really that much better than the GSKIL? How about the extra 256MB on the graphics card, will I notice the difference? I guess if I go for the 'extras' it will mean I have to wait a good few months for a new monitor, but I really don't mind as my CRT is doing ok.

(PS I'm very open to ideas - none of the above is a definate 'must')
K, is it worth it? IMO, yes, the E6300 nonetheless is a very good CPU but the extra cache is very important but also the higher clocks and ratio. Many will say that's not worth it but performance wise the E6600 is better, whether or not "they" admit it or not. E6600 it is.

Neither one of those two RAM kits is my cup of tea but if I were to go with either one? I'd definitely choose the G.Skill kit, mainly because my previous Corsair DDR2 800 EPP was very bad for overclocking, I thought I was getting a good overclocking kit but they never were.

Again, the extra 256MB of RAM will also be noticeable and very important, after all, they don't add something for nothing. If I were to look for a video card right now, I'd go with one that will have 512MB of RAM minimum, as the DX10 cards tend to have 640MB and 768MB of RAM, so I'm not going to be surprise if soon, we'll see the 1GB cards.

Stick with CRT, I don't like LCDs yet, they will never be as good as CRT, but then again my CRT is 22" and 4, close to 5 years old now and I wouldn't even trade it for a 24" LCD. But if you must get an LCD, I'd say worry about it later, get the core parts first.

As for the MoBo? I don't know, if you're going for Phase the COMMANDO will be a nice one but the P5B Deluxe as it is, it's a kickass board for the E6600 and overclocking in general, so my vote goes for the P5B Deluxe.
post #5 of 20
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Thanks Nasgul, what you say makes sense :-) Although I will prob go with the commando as its meant to oc a bit better than the p5b deluxe.

I need to read up on ram as I don't understand all the timing stuff etc

Which ram would you choose from here? (under £200 ish): www.memory-configurator.com (change country to United Kingdom to get prices in £'s)
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http://www.memory-configurator.com/p...kit/index.html

Team Xtreem ram is awesome, and it comes with Micron D9 memory chips - the best memory chips there are on DDR2 at the minute
    
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where did you get your prices from?

if they are prices Inc VAT they are quite amazing.
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Actually I'm not from the UK and those are great prices? VAT is always included in your prices right? Also, if you're gonna get Vista, just get Home Premium. It's like Media Center just better.
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Originally Posted by beret9987 View Post
Actually I'm not from the UK and those are great prices? VAT is always included in your prices right? Also, if you're gonna get Vista, just get Home Premium. It's like Media Center just better.
VAT is on anything bought new

Businesses get VAT off for stuff they need

ie office computers etc.
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post #10 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brook View Post
I need to read up on ram as I don't understand all the timing stuff etc
The best and inexpensive kit that is worth getting due to the fact that those have Micron D9s, are the 2Gb Team DDR2 PC2-6400 Xtreem that Adam mentioned but if that's too much?

Then get the 2Gb G.Skill DDR2 PC2-6400 PK Series 4-4-4-12, this will be the least expensive RAM that I'd suggest getting.
And what I don't get is that £1 = $1.89, yet that kit is $225 here in the U.S., why is it way more expensive in the U.K.? Anyhow, that looks expensive to me but the G.Skill is what I suggest.

Now, as for the quote? Actually when it comes to DDR2, best kit to get are the ones with 4-4-4-12 timings and 2.1v max for stock, in some cases the 2.2v is fine. CAS 5 is good but the 4 is a little better and something you want o use at all times when overclocking is at least CAS4 fallowed up by 4-4-12 with a 2.20v for added stability and 2.30v when pushing a 500mhz (DDR2 1000) for more stability.
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