Originally Posted by PsyM4n
Lastly the ugly part. Oh, and it IS ugly.
Here we have it. A Corsair representative criticizing the approach of a user who does all this in order to help people. The comment about 10mv of difference in ripple being useless in real world scenarios really ticked me off here. It's hypocrisy in all its glory.
For years, and I mean years, I've been listening of how superb are some power supplies (from Corsair and other companies) by using a "single power rail" and by "exceeding the ATX specification by 40%". It's advertised all over most reviews and the packaging of most products. And suddenly, after 10+ years of using those claims (that make no difference in real world scenarios by the way) Corsair decides that since someone else is doing it, but against them this time, it's useless.
Who do you think you're talking to? Someone mentally disabled or something? Is that the opinion you have about this community you previously claimed to have "higher hopes" of?
Well, you should get your facts straight. The community doesn't need your hopes. YOU
need the community. Not the other way around. It's that simple.
Let's be frank. We make high end units with the best ripple and noise control in the world because that's what reviewers expect. What they test for. It may sound cynical, but we've been making power supplies for 8 years now, and the industry has changed dramatically.
In 2006 when we started, there were lots of shoddy products out there. Lots and lots of REALLY bad stuff, rated at peak, or just outright lies on the box.
In 2010 when we launched our AX series, the Gold certified market was taking off significantly and the "80 PLUS" rating became synonymous with quality in a lot of people's minds, though reviewers know it's only tied to efficiency, it became the single determining factor for most customers as to whether a power supply was "good" or not. Even now, I see people make that mistake. There are plenty of very decent Bronze certified units that get overlooked for questionable Gold certified units every day.
So if I seem like I'm making excuses, I apologize. It was not my intent. My intent was to point out that there are plenty of reasons to choose a brand besides reviews. If somebody came to me and said "Look, I want to buy a Corsair power supply, but this power supply from your competitor is on sale and a great deal this week", and I knew the product was solid and the company had good support, I'd recommend them. Before Corsair made PSUs I personally used Antec, Silverstone, and Seasonic products in most of my stuff. And though I'm exclusively Corsair now (employee discount can't be beat), if somebody were able to find a great deal on a good competing product, I'd have no problem with that.
Does 30mV vs. 40mV ripple really matter? It's insanely tough to test for. It probably makes no difference to most users. It might affect super high-end overclockers or something, the guys doing LN2 benching. I've seen Jake switch out PSUs and get an extra few hundred MHz on the CPU, and it's sometimes inexplicable what affects those guys.
So if I came across condescending, I apologize. It was not my intent. My intent is to have well-educated and mature discussion, and I felt it was time we chimed in here to let people know that some of the facts that have been mentioned here are incorrect or outdated.