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Shilka reminds me of how I was back in 2010. Learning and educating at the same time. A good ground base of knowledge, but some major gaps. A bit hyperbolic on negative descriptors. Supportive of the underdogs.





George, I'd just like to point out that your claim that users will pass up a quality Bronze power supply to pick up a shoddy Gold is not likely true in aggregate. While it may be true in some cases, I think the market share figures for Corsair alone vs. Coolmax and Raidmax should be enough to demonstrate that that is a minor effect at best.
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George, I'd just like to point out that your claim that users will pass up a quality Bronze power supply to pick up a shoddy Gold is not likely true in aggregate. While it may be true in some cases, I think the market share figures for Corsair alone vs. Coolmax and Raidmax should be enough to demonstrate that that is a minor effect at best.

Hm, I'm not so sure there. Another explanation (and likely a very large contributing factor) would be that people buy Corsair over the other brands. It's hard to come up with fair comparisons where we're just looking at one or two variables being different, especially keeping price and brand the same.

However, I can really believe TX sales slowing down, especially without the price drops, and everybody knows about Antec Signature, right? A lot of FSP Aurum-based power supplies are somewhat successful despite not particularly being superior to the usual budget group reg, two-transistor forward design.

That said, even FSP Aurum is not exactly in the "shoddy" range, just not anything special at all. In fact, few of the 80 plus gold platforms are that bad.

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A simple edit to the existing review, pointing out that Corsair claims to have fixed the problem on non-review units should be enough. Right now there are articles on 2 of the biggest sites that do PSU reviews which point out issues that should be non-existent in retail units... now, that can't be a good thing, right?

This hurts Corsair's reputation for no reason. Due to both the review score being affected and the negative feedback from places like this one.
I agree. Even if you don't send out more review samples you can send out notices to the review sites once you've fixed an issue. Lots of sites are glad to publish comments or responses from the manufacturers. Regardless of whether or not you or I would take the manufacturer at face value and believe them, a number of readers will. And a lot of people directly or indirectly reference older reviews.

Also, I kind of agree that opening up a new unit isn't worth a reviewer's time. But updating their review by copy and pasting in a response doesn't take too long.
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Well, that 's the point. People shop by brand before they shop by efficiency. Raidmax probably has the best scam going with their 80PLUS standard Andyson E platform "AE series" being sold as 80PLUS Gold. But I've seen Raidmax's market share at a couple of major retailers, and it's not large. And the AE series is hardly the largest portion of that.

Corsair is dumping the TX series in Mexico. That looks like a logistics goof to me, like they kept ordering at the old, pre-RM rate up until launch, and didn't have a proper phase-in/phase-out plan. Either that or they had a *loooot* of inventory.
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I should note here that the review on Jonny's page is the major offender here. From what I understand Jonny is part of Corsair, yet the info on the review covering one of your products on his site is outdated and involves an issue that you reportedly fixed. Who's at fault here? It's not some random review on a page you have no affiliation with. That's bad practice.

And I should note here that jonnyGURU now works at Corsair, not jonnyGURU.com. He retired from the site specifically to avoid the conflicts of interest you're talking about. Tony Day runs things at the site now, with some help from Izzy the pug biggrin.gif

As for the review itself, I am the reviewer. My stance on the 5V jumper issue is the exact same as the last time I posted about it... it is a complete non-issue. There is not enough power available on the 5V rail of that unit to cause an issue. There isn't enough current draw in a modern rig that could be powered by a 650W unit to cause an issue. From page five:
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And yes. The Extech says it's all good, now. So, if you're good at soldering and don't mind voiding your warranty, you too can now get those last two 5V wires working. But I'd really just leave them alone. They aren't needed, and voiding your warranty to fix this one little non-issue is probably not worth the bother.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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I'd be funny if some motherboard is designed with the same logic as the PSU was designed though. By attempting to use power just from one of the "missing" wires while ignoring the rest. Now, that would be some serious combo trolling. tongue.gif
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I'd be funny if some motherboard is designed with the same logic as the PSU was designed though. By attempting to use power just from one of the "missing" wires while ignoring the rest. Now, that would be some serious combo trolling. tongue.gif

I don't think DFI still makes enthusiast motherboards.
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I don't think DFI still makes enthusiast motherboards.

I don't think DFI is still in business??!?!

Anyhoo... yeah... I'm "jonnyGURU" the person. JonnyGURU.com is the website. I started it, but they won't change the name because that's been the name for over a decade.

It would be like Tom's Hardware changing their name to "The Hardware Site" because Tom left.... ok.... My ego isn't really that big. thumb.gif
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I don't think DFI is still in business??!?!

Anyhoo... yeah... I'm "jonnyGURU" the person. JonnyGURU.com is the website. I started it, but they won't change the name because that's been the name for over a decade.

It would be like Tom's Hardware changing their name to "The Hardware Site" because Tom left.... ok.... My ego isn't really that big. thumb.gif

How the hell did you get the nickname "Guru" anyway? I realize it's a play on your last name but did you come up with it or did you get called that somewhere?
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And I should note here that jonnyGURU now works at Corsair, not jonnyGURU.com. He retired from the site specifically to avoid the conflicts of interest you're talking about. Tony Day runs things at the site now, with some help from Izzy the pug biggrin.gif

As for the review itself, I am the reviewer. My stance on the 5V jumper issue is the exact same as the last time I posted about it... it is a complete non-issue. There is not enough power available on the 5V rail of that unit to cause an issue. There isn't enough current draw in a modern rig that could be powered by a 650W unit to cause an issue. From page five:
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
It's nice to see the wolf chip in wink.gif
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How the hell did you get the nickname "Guru" anyway? I realize it's a play on your last name but did you come up with it or did you get called that somewhere?

A lot of people mispronounce my last name. And a lot of people pronounce it "guru". But it all started at The Clock restaurant in Vero Beach, back in 1989 when the hostess said, "Mr Guru, party of five. Table is ready...."
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