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Originally Posted by DaveLT View Post

Silent? Nah not really. If you want to be pedantic silence = no sound at all. I'm sorry a PSU that costs near others has crappier parts and for the higher level ones, overheat. That's a good psu? Really?


Either way, buying corsair just for support is rather dumb. First off, their support is not exactly the best. Secondly, CM has better support. Thirdly it took me 1 month to RMA a HX650 and they attempted to pin the blame on me. What? ( I was going under another name)
So yeah, only treating select people they find with great potential to market themselves well. Never look for the opinions of a reviewer who is sponsored by Corsair

Any rig over 1000$ nowadays is pedantic, blaming a brand because it has parts made in China instead of Japan and not knowing/saying what that in reality means is being pedantic.

Silent? oh yes! Coil Whine Free + Fanless = Silence. Now if you are being pedantic then yes I wasn't meaning 0 dB, I don't mind a little of broadband fan noise there, it's coil whine what disgusts me.
And I never buy thinking on customer support, otherwise I would have never gone BeQuiet!

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Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

Guys, keep it civil.

Thanks.
edit: It's hard to keep a thread civil with these kind of posts. Just a step away from 4chan. I would encourage some forum cleaning to keep things in order.
post #252 of 649
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Originally Posted by Dogway View Post

Any rig over 1000$ nowadays is pedantic, blaming a brand because it has parts made in China instead of Japan and not knowing/saying what that in reality means is being pedantic.

...........

Pretty sure people on this thread know the difference quite well.

Is this what you're referring to ?
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/december/power-supply-capacitor-q-and-a
Edited by eXXon - 3/26/14 at 1:32pm
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I believe the issue with Chinese vs. Japanese caps is not the country of origin per se, but more that the companies involved have different ethics. The major Japanese capacitor brands build caps which can do their rated specifications with ample headroom to account for degradation, with high quality materials and solid engineering and testing validation to ensure that they outlast their rated lifespan. Whereas the Chinese capacitor manufactures traditionally overrate and oversell their product with inflated specifications, leading to little or no headroom, with poorer quality materials and much less rigorous testing and QA. Many Chinese brands have outright lied about their products' capabilities, selling 25V caps as 50V caps, or marking 560uF caps as 1000uF caps, as well as down right fabricated ESR figures! Not to mention the thriving counterfeit market (Rulycon!). The situation is a lot like with PSUs--

CapXon is to Taicon is to United Chemicon
in much the same way as
SunPro is to Channel Well is to Delta Electronics

Just, unlike with PSUs, the variances in capacitor quality are geographically correlated. But, come to think of it, before all the factories moved to the PRC, the units built in Taiwan were almost universally better. Though I suppose no one in this thread would remember 3Y or Impervio.



EDIT: No offense to George and John, but regarding that Corsair "Q&A"--I call the "My Cousin Vinny" defense.
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post #254 of 649
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edit: It's hard to keep a thread civil with these kind of posts. Just a step away from 4chan. I would encourage some forum cleaning to keep things in order.


what? do you realize your the one who came in, even making a new account, just to start the argument with the others?
your whole post is ironic ..... you come in, attacking others, and when they defend their position, you start calling their posts "4chan material" ????

If your going to fanboy something specific, go ahead, we wont hate you for it.

but dont go on feeding biased info .....

shilka is stating facts, telling us that either
1) you can go for "$X" priced RM series with bad quality
or
2) go for "$X" priced "better options" with better quality
at the same prices....

(it isnt an unknown fact that Japanese capacitors are superior to Chinese or Taiwan, not because of their origin, but because of the regulations behind it)

and your going off taking the message as the wrong way, thinking that he is being biased to hating on corsair....

even if RM was from brand " Y " and another "good quality PSU" was from the same brand, " Y ", he would still say the RM is bad compared to other similar priced item.

its like saying, if the i5 was priced at $50, and the Pentium 4 was priced at $50, what would you get?

if the gtx 760 was priced at $240, and the 780 was priced at $240, again, what would you get?

same price, different quality. same situation with the RM compared to other similar priced PSU. (but in this case, there are better PSU thats priced less)
Edited by IMKR - 3/26/14 at 2:35pm
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Don't read the news/GPU sections then frown.gif. OCN has recently had an influx of quite childish users, half of which are probably paid (hardware bribed) shills. Especially since OCN has gained notoriety since the fall of users bases from forums such as Toms/Hardforum/Anandtech.

I do try to stay out of those threads as well, I mostly stay in the laptop forums anymore, nice and pretty peaceful over there in comparison smile.gif Also anything related to activision/EA/Dice etc I stay away from most of the time.

The way AnandTech moderates their forums it doesnt surprise me that they would find other forums to hang out in. They are atrocious.
    
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Well the thing is that the RM series isn't THAT bad. It's just that it's overhyped and you can get something a bit better for similar cost, or the same thing for less. He's not necessarily bashing the RM series. He doesn't bash Corsair at all, it may appear that way but that is due to the way he types.
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Well the thing is that the RM series isn't THAT bad. It's just that it's overhyped and you can get something a bit better for similar cost, or the same thing for less. He's not necessarily bashing the RM series. He doesn't bash Corsair at all, it may appear that way but that is due to the way he types.

and again biggrin.gif

the toyota, or the pentium, or the 760 (the cases in my example)

isnt bad, its just if it was priced wrong, theres better options is what im saying in my comparisons


EDIT: so what im trying to say is, i understand biggrin.gif
Edited by IMKR - 3/26/14 at 2:54pm
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and again biggrin.gif

the toyota, or the pentium, or the 760 (the cases in my example)

isnt bad, its just if it was priced wrong, theres better options is what im saying in my comparisons


EDIT: so what im trying to say is, i understand biggrin.gif
I figured you understood, that last post was more for others.
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This thread has been viewed over 11.500 times now far more then any other thread i made even the info threads

Thats a lot lol but guess if you say things some people might or might not like it got a lot of views
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I wonder how much money shilka has cost Corsair for creating this thread or any other company for that matter with the title "Why you should not buy XXX PSU". biggrin.gif
Edited by Capt - 3/26/14 at 6:28pm
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