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Damn, LOL! All these Corsair PSU lines it is hard to keep track of and then wait if they get into the SFF/SFX market.

Who is this CS market catering after?

I have no idea where the market for the CS is

Its just a bit less then the RM which is way too high so it would fit between the TX and RM

But the TX is better so again why spend more to get something thats worse
Edited by shilka - 1/25/14 at 6:52am
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I think it is safe to say (and thanks for a great thread Shilka!) that pretty much anything by Seasonic (or with Seasonic internals) is guaranteed to at least be decent. I've owned a few Corsair power supplies (will never forget my HX1050 that died a couple of years back...).

Any time I have bought Seasonic, I have not had an issue. I currently have a Seasonic in one system and an Antec with Seasonic internals in the other. Nary an issue to be found thumb.gif
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I think it is safe to say (and thanks for a great thread Shilka!) that pretty much anything by Seasonic (or with Seasonic internals) is guaranteed to at least be decent. I've owned a few Corsair power supplies (will never forget my HX1050 that died a couple of years back...).

Any time I have bought Seasonic, I have not had an issue. I currently have a Seasonic in one system and an Antec with Seasonic internals in the other. Nary an issue to be found thumb.gif

Your HX1050 was not Seasonic that was a CWT unit

The RM is also CWT with the CS being made by Great Wall
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Your HX1050 was not Seasonic that was a CWT unit

The RM is also CWT with the CS being made by Great Wall

Main point of this thread is to show that you pay more money for something with higher ripple worse voltage regulation and cheap ass low grade chinese capacitors

Yes I know it wasn't (hence my point that it died... got me right off Corsair products for awhile).
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Who is this CS market catering after?
CS market is whoever doesn't know better (or knows and yet doesn't care about other things) and wants the cheapest 80 plus gold and partially modular power supply and/or wants at least some of the above and something that's pretty quiet. That is, in markets where there's not cheaper 80 plus gold and partially modular power supplies. In the US, you may as well buy Rosewill Capstone-M instead, for example. Practically, a lot of buyers don't understand build quality and power supply performance and/or don't know where to find information on that kind of thing, so Corsair at least claims there's some large amount of buyers that would rather have a product like CS than the old TX.

Also, if you're not an enthusiast and don't run your computer that hard or for that long, CS might actually be more desirable than TX despite the lower components and output quality. It's maybe more useful for HTPC builds? But really, in that case, there's no model under 450W for those users, so...

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Is the CS series replacing the CX or are they a whole different line? Too many darn PSU's to keep track of from Corsair these days.
CX is popular and not getting replaced, according to Corsair. CS is definitely a different line.

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I think it is safe to say (and thanks for a great thread Shilka!) that pretty much anything by Seasonic (or with Seasonic internals) is guaranteed to at least be decent
There's at least one counterexample, the Arctic Cooling Fusion (S12II gone wrong by way of overcheapification; if you want a low cost you don't ask Seasonic to OEM in the first place generally):
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=209
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CS market is whoever doesn't know better (or knows and yet doesn't care about other things) and wants the cheapest 80 plus gold and partially modular power supply and/or wants at least some of the above and something that's pretty quiet. That is, in markets where there's not cheaper 80 plus gold and partially modular power supplies. In the US, you may as well buy Rosewill Capstone-M instead, for example. Practically, a lot of buyers don't understand build quality and power supply performance and/or don't know where to find information on that kind of thing, so Corsair at least claims there's some large amount of buyers that would rather have a product like CS than the old TX.

Also, if you're not an enthusiast and don't run your computer that hard or for that long, CS might actually be more desirable than TX despite the lower components and output quality. It's maybe more useful for HTPC builds? But really, in that case, there's no model under 450W for those users, so...
CX is popular and not getting replaced, according to Corsair. CS is definitely a different line.
There's at least one counterexample, the Arctic Cooling Fusion (S12II gone wrong by way of overcheapification; if you want a low cost you don't ask Seasonic to OEM in the first place generally):
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=209

That was the name i forgot the name of that series

You talked about that series before and i recall it as one of if not the worst Seasonic made series

Edit also the worst looking PSU i have ever seen
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There are actually plenty of Seasonic designs that go bad one way or another. Now, there are quite a few power supplies from other "quality" brands that go bad, but the statistics from 2-3 years ago showed that Seasonic had the most RMAs compared to the likes of Delta, CWT, Enhance, etc.
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There are actually plenty of Seasonic designs that go bad one way or another. Now, there are quite a few power supplies from other "quality" brands that go bad, but the statistics from 2-3 years ago showed that Seasonic had the most RMAs compared to the likes of Delta, CWT, Enhance, etc.

Is that not because of more sales overall vs the others?
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Those were by percentage generally, though often counted by returns rate (return due to coil whine and the thing still working fine would count), depending on which statistics are being pointed to.

It seems like some decent number of people had issues with products based on the high-wattage X series, and yeah, plenty of power supplies with lower output quality might have better longevity or lower failure rate in the "does it work or not?" category.

Seasonic isn't a top OEM in terms of volume of units shipped, so their QC is not necessarily tops. They just make a lot of high-performance enthusiast designs that enthusiast computer components brands pick up and use. In any case, from inspection of individual units it seems at least their soldering quality has improved in the last few years.
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Jonny Gerow's worked at Ultra and BFG before too. And in the last few years he hadn't been doing that many reviews anyway. (he doesn't do any since the stint at Corsair for obvious reasons)

It's almost all OklahomaWolf doing reviews these days with the odd thing from Tazz. It's not like RM650 and CS550M got recommended awards, and I don't really see any signs of some favoritism or being less critical based on brands.

It's just something to look out for IMO tongue.gif

That's why with anything you can't trust one source for your reviews.
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