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The goal : 29 seconds in Super Pi 1M with my 3200+ under complete system stability.

Thought i'd post an OC Log on my way to 29s, i will try any possible way to hit that mark for free with my current equipment, if this turns out to be impossible then a TEC/Water Setup will have to find is way into my case

I'll be using Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS, this modded version of Super Pi displays milliseconds, in my case, every millisecond is important

Note that i will use CoreTemp to monitor the CPU temp through the process. CPU Temps shown in Speedfan and such are sure appealing but as we all know, taken from the mobo sensor located under the cpu socket, which is by far not as accurate as the core temp.

The victim(s) :


A rare CPU Heatsink i managed to get my hands on : The Thermal Take Big Typhoon.

2 x 512mb OCZ Gold GX DDR433 (UTT-BH5)

3200 + Venice
LBBLE 0516EPMW
Z639026D50186

From what i've quickly gathered on the forum, this seems to be the best stepping for a 3200+ Venice, let's see if it can hold up to his title.

(Maybe i'm not right about that, feel free to correct me.)

Currently Running :

9 x 280 @ 1.55v , 42ºC Load.
DDR433 @ DDR460 2-2-2-5-1T
SuperPi 1M Score : 34.485s
(See attachments)

Hope you will enjoy the read as much as i enjoy tweaking this rig!

That's it for now, there's obviously a lot of things planned to get me there, so stay tuned!


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Great, I can't wait to see your progress. Keep us updated! Rep+

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I'll take a guess.... Shakira?
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To get the most out of my Big Typhoon and to eliminate the future bottleneck heat may cause, some things had to be done :

When i first received my BT i was dissapointed by the poor finish on the base, i could literally feel scrathes with my finger nail.. nothing compared to how thermalright finish their base. It was so poor and so concave that i spent a good hour on the 400grit to get it flat, but the results are well worth it.

BT Lapping :

Before :




After :




Also took off the IHS, to be honest i was too lazy to apply the TIM all over the IHS again LOL so i just removed it. I'm happy i did it... Better temps, fast TIM application + a brand new keychain, what else could a man ask for ?

IHS Removed :






As you can see i put on 4 stand off on each corner so i wouldn't worry about cracking the core while tightening the huge BT on it. The second pic shows the initial AS5 layer, i eventually had to take off the HSF and re-apply the paste as i wasn't getting the temperature i expected.

To finish the job i changed the stock fan on the BT for a Silverstone FM121 to say a little about the fan, with the fan controller it can push way more air than the stock fan with less noise, it also can push a lot more air with more noise but i didn't need too max it out yet.



You can also see my active ram cooling 1337 setup on the above picture :lol:

Results :
Before : Idle : ~35ºC / Load : ~47ºC

vCore = 1.55 volts
With the fan @ ~1241rpm (~2440max)

IDLE


LOAD (15mins of OCCT)


Current OC :

8 x 330 @ 1.55v , 40ºC Load.
DDR433 @ DDR460 2-2-2-5-1T
SuperPi 1M Score : 32.672s
Screenshot

I'm slowly raising.. never managed to get the system stable around 2.7ghz before, should be harder from now on!

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post #5 of 62
not sure how much lower times you can get or if you can reach 29 secs cuz it seems like you will need more vcore.
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Hey i'm far from being done! I expect to hit 29s @ around 2.9ghz or less with high ram freq + tight timings
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wow, that is some really good ram!
great timings!
I only have 2.5-3-3-6 @ 193 mhz
and my 3500+ @ 2.7 needs 35seconds
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ow, btw how did you attach those stand off's?
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wow nice job on the heatsink, goodluck with the overclocking
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Quote:
Originally Posted by killerfromsky View Post
wow, that is some really good ram!
great timings!
I only have 2.5-3-3-6 @ 193 mhz
and my 3500+ @ 2.7 needs 35seconds
Gotta love UTT-BH5 chips! Your ram is the reason your 3500+ only scores 35seconds, super pi gain quite a lot with high performance memory.

Quote:
Originally Posted by killerfromsky View Post
ow, btw how did you attach those stand off's?
I got them from a dead Athlon XP, carefully took em off with an X-acto knife and just sticked them on the CPU, they were still sticking enough, except for one where i used a very little drop of some kick-ass glue.

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Originally Posted by Satek View Post
wow nice job on the heatsink, goodluck with the overclocking
Thanks! Took me ~3 hours so the compliment is appreciated lol.
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