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Creative sound cards are the most recommended for gaming simply because they have native EAX support, where the Asus ones emulate such support. As with any emulation, its never 100%, so for games, they are the better solution despite the driver issues.

Having said that, I own a Titanium HD and really like it. My only issue with it has been a driver problem which only occurs on a restart of the system, and is easily fixed by reinstalling the driver. But that's a topic for another thread.

Ahh ok, I get what you mean. I would like to get the creative instead of the Asus simply for the fact that I'm in the 90%+ gaming use catagory. While I do watch movies and shows as well as listen to music, it is nowhere near the same amount of time gaming. To give you an idea, I will normally play games for about 10+ hours a day on most days. I watch about 5-10 movies every 2-3 months (usually will watch 2-3, one after another or within 2-3 days). When watching shows, I do so in one of 2 ways, which is either I will marathon them until I'm completely caught up, or I will watch 1-4 episodes per day and spend the rest of the day gaming until I've finished said show. Once I've finished getting caught up (or re-watching the entire series), it is usually weeks (if not months) before I watch another show. As for music, I'm always multi-tasking when listening while browsing the web, or playing certain games that have little requirement for sound, looping music that I've already listened to for a period of time, or just bad music in general (i.e. bad quality or doesn't fit with the game in some way that makes it feel bleh). Or it could possibly be a "time-waster" game such as Terraria, a Civ/Simulation style game, or the like where music plays no importance or factor.

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i feel your pain. i've got one too. Refurbished intel dp45sgs can be had for $50, but getting memory for them is a pain. you MUST have ddr3 1333 of cas 8 or lower. Also the thing is a pain to update firmware on and it doesn't like some new video cards, the 7950 in particular. i wound up getting an asus maximus ii formula for $50. which leaves me with a spare working dp45sg and nothing to do with it.

As for the rest your reasoning is sound.

Yeah I know that pain all too well. It took me over a week to find my current board (paid $125.00, $135.24 including the shipping). My problems? Well lets see, first it's a very sub-par board (especially for the price and socket)... Also, the audio chip is IDT (which no longer exists and the drivers are no longer supported in any way), was supposed to be "Windows 7 Ready" except that it wasn't because took me nearly a week to find a suitable audio driver that would work ok-ish. Was supposed to be easy to OC on, but it wasn't by ANY stretch of the imagination (I'm running at stock speeds of 3.0GHz because it won't let me OC at all due to the way it links to the memory). The board is supposed to be good but it's not as getting some of the software running properly is either an extreme hassle or just flat out won't. The board is an Intel DX38BT, which isn't a great brand for boards (i know), but it should have been considerably better than what it is, especially at the price I paid for it as I've bought boards for $80 that were twice as good as this board is.

So to avoid anything of this sort again, I'd rather just go as new as I can so that I no longer have to worry about that for quite some time.

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a nifty lil' site for a quick overview of STOCK cpu performance: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html also has it for graphics cards and others. I use it to quickly make a % difference in performance vs extra cost required


I was at the upgrade stage almost a year ago (upgrade from a 6 yr old AMD system), ended up going for:

Z77 extreme 4 motherboard
I5 3570k cpu
2x 4 gb 2400 Mhz rated DDR3 memory (clocked @ 2133 )
A contac CPU cooler/air, roughly close to 'Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo' (local market conditions dictated the compromise)
later on I plugged in a 250G ssd

Still using old PSU, 550ti graphics card, various bits.
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My impression of things:

The Z77 extreme 4:
+ good board vs what I was using before,
+board is a little thin, and a wee bit smaller than ATX, inserting the 24 pin PSU plug must be done with supporting the board underneath or risk bad stuff™ happening.
+fan control was achieved with SpeedFan 3'rd party program (motherboard fan control software suks).
+sound: I was not impressed by the integrated sound (at low sound volume I could hear a hiss), ended up using video card's HDMI audio out for external speakers (monitor speakers, and if I want to have even more sound I use the monitor's audio out to link to the amp), and case front for headphone/mic.

+Overclocking: http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition
+reached 4.4 ghz, and using it on daily basis for almost a year now, no major issues. Voltages: 1.32V + 0.05 V assrock bias = 1.37 V for 4.4 Ghz / 94 C peak core temperature under stress test/28 C room (not the best piece of silicon out there ). Under gaming the temperature per core reaches a cool 50-60 deg.C/core.
+had to bump a bit the voltage 6-ish months into the OC to keep stability
+ran into some issues a few weeks ago with USB 2.0 ports I was using for keyboard/mouse (on some boot-ups mouse/keyboard were unresponsive if kept in those ports - I suspect a windows update as the culprit). Updated bios to latest and changed the usb ports and the problem went away (*knocks wood*). Also the new bios allowed me a decrease of voltage to reach same OC (Win!): 1.26V+0.05 assrock bias=1.31V for 4.4 Ghz / 80 C -ish max core temp/19C room.

550ti graphics
I suggest people stay away from 500 family of nvidia cards, but if a cheap option just pops up™ know there are some issues with the drivers newer than v3.14 that lead to mouse cursor issues/freezes. Must keep the graphics driver downgraded to solve.

SSD: this board realistically has ONE sata 6/Gb/s port that can be used at FULL speed (550 Mb/s-ish max speed as per my SSD specs). The other "6 Gb" ports top out at a bit over 300 Mb/s due to multiplexing.

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Overall I'm ok with the gaming performance, in MMO's (like planetside 2/tera online), the cpu is maxed out in big fights (also confirming not all cores being maxed out, thus hyperthreading does nothing in my case), otherwise the GPU is my bottleneck, but generally I don't have issues in keeping FPS around 60 if I dial down the graphics (video card upgrade pending).
Edited by hexaq - 3/13/14 at 6:43am
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