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Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation View Post

Skyrim runs on two cores max, GTA4 was a poor port for PC, it is very unoptimized, and BF3 is a tough game to conquer.
I've already said what the issue is. Skyrim only uses two cores. MAX. You can only get 25% usage on an 8-core. Sometimes task manager can report more than that, but it really is only using two cores.
As for the GPU downclocking, that is probably when he is at a loading screen. The GPU downclocks to save power since it only has to play a pre-rendered, 30FPS, medium detail image.
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1st mistake:AMD current FX for gaming
Only warning once, no trolling or flaming.

The FX series is great for gaming. Skyrim is the only game that I play where I can drop below 60FPS. That is with 30+ mods, and the 4k texture pack. I have to be in a city where I get 55FPS+, or at Dragonsreach looking at the city (50FPS).
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Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation View Post

I've already said what the issue is. Skyrim only uses two cores. MAX. You can only get 25% usage on an 8-core. Sometimes task manager can report more than that, but it really is only using two cores.
As for the GPU downclocking, that is probably when he is at a loading screen. The GPU downclocks to save power since it only has to play a pre-rendered, 30FPS, medium detail image.
Only warning once, no trolling or flaming.

The FX series is great for gaming. Skyrim is the only game that I play where I can drop below 60FPS. That is with 30+ mods, and the 4k texture pack. I have to be in a city where I get 55FPS+, or at Dragonsreach looking at the city (50FPS).

I agree with most everything you said.

But I don't think 8350 is great for gaming (in gaming's current state, at least), only good. Many games can't use its core count which is a big handicap. Often, when I was playing PlanetSide 2 (before optimization it was even more present), my 8350 would bottleneck my measly 660 (which doesn't say much about its performance in that game).
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Skyrim only uses 1 or 2 threads at a time, so Intel Cpu's with higher ipc perform better, and it is also an nvidia favoring game. And GTA IV is a terrible port, it runs like crap for everyone. For Battlefield 3, is your 40 fps in campaign or a 64 player server? You should see better frames in campaign, but really high end systems often have trouble keeping amazing frame rates in 64 player battles in that game, even 4770k's thumb.gif


edit: probably should have read more posts here, looks like I just said what others already told you biggrin.gif my bad
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I read somewhere that if you disable some of the cores that your fps will go up. I was having a stuttering problem too and turned off mouse acceleration in the ini file which helped tremendously
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I read somewhere that if you disable some of the cores that your fps will go up. I was having a stuttering problem too and turned off mouse acceleration in the ini file which helped tremendously

That is true in some cases where a game can't take advantage of the cores, or if some of the cores are unstable due to a bad overclock. Stuttering could be due to a multitude of things, from old drivers, thermal throttling, and of course, a bad overclock.
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But I don't think 8350 is great for gaming

There are only a few games out there that keep it below 60FPS. Yes, there are drops every so often, but the fact is:

It isn't as bad as everyone thinks.

Everyone's logic is: Lower IPC than Intel, it can't pull 60 frames.
Reality: It's pulling 60FPS, just like Intel.
Games usually give 3 options: Bad port that requires OC to get 60FPS (Skyrim); Easy to run game where a GT 660 + stock 8320/2500k pulls 100+ FPS; Extremely demanding game that drops SLI/CFX and i7e below 40FPS.

Somehow, I still see people bashing AMD chips with any game that falls under any of those categories. End rant, I guess.

Anyway, you have your answer OP. Skyrim = bad port, GTA4 = terrible port with 0 optimization, BF3 = demanding. You are getting what you should be, or at least in the area.
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Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation View Post

There are only a few games out there that keep it below 60FPS. Yes, there are drops every so often, but the fact is:

It isn't as bad as everyone thinks.

Everyone's logic is: Lower IPC than Intel, it can't pull 60 frames.
Reality: It's pulling 60FPS, just like Intel.
Games usually give 3 options: Bad port that requires OC to get 60FPS (Skyrim); Easy to run game where a GT 660 + stock 8320/2500k pulls 100+ FPS; Extremely demanding game that drops SLI/CFX and i7e below 40FPS.

Somehow, I still see people bashing AMD chips with any game that falls under any of those categories. End rant, I guess.

Anyway, you have your answer OP. Skyrim = bad port, GTA4 = terrible port with 0 optimization, BF3 = demanding. You are getting what you should be, or at least in the area.

Sorry but I think you are overreacting a bit to anyone saying anything negative about the 8350. No offense meant, just that the discussion would be a bit more civil if you tried to change your tone of writing.

I own an 8350 so if you think I am "bashing" AMD CPUs then you are wrong. I said they are "good," but not "great." They really aren't perfect chips.

I don't think you understood what I was saying about PS2... I said that the 660 is fine with near maxed-out settings (with some FPS drops of course), but if you watch the FPS counter in the game, it shows the bottleneck; before an optimization to utilize more cores, it said "CPU" 90% of the time. This shouldn't happen with a $200 CPU and an equally priced GPU, is what I am saying. And my situation doesn't fall under any of your "3 options"... PlanetSide is a demanding game, but the fact of the matter is that the 8350 is underperforming in that specific game (and it happens to be the game that I play most). Now games with better multithreading will be better on the 8-core FX, as you say.
Edited by WarpPrism - 1/10/14 at 12:26am
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I have a 965 be and am looking at buying the 8350 in the next week or two. Should I be reconsidering
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What PSU do you have? One time i had a client who complained about fps drops because his PSU was some cheap non-branded one that couldnt deliver enough power to his CPU + GPU efficiently so sometimes the GPU would downclock....

The fact that your card is running at 299mhz is really low and can cause these fps drops. Isnt the base clock for those cards like around 800?
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Originally Posted by DontTreadOnMe06 View Post

I have a 965 be and am looking at buying the 8350 in the next week or two. Should I be reconsidering

Not necessarily, it is a good value at quite a bit under the 3570K/4670K. It just doesn't perform that well in games that are poorly optimized and only use 2-3 cores. In fact, I noticed that with all settings maxed, PlanetSide after optimization is CPU limited slightly less than it is GPU limited with my setup, since more cores are being utilized now. Games coming out now (that aren't paid off by Intel that is) will be able to be maxed out on the 8350 or even the 6300 with newer development technologies.

If your current motherboard supports FX Piledriver/Vishera CPUs and the VRMs support enough wattage, then it is even better.
Edited by WarpPrism - 1/10/14 at 12:32am
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