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Duckie, since you know about everything there is to know about computers, is it more effective to have 64 bits of bus per GiB of VRAM or is it better to have 128 bits? The latter seems to be standard with a few exceptions (4GB GK107/Pitcarin/Curaco, 1GB Pitcairn, 2GB Bonaire, 6GB GK110, and 6GB Tahiti) or is it just based on simpler memory controllers? The 320-bit bus on this is more in line with a 2.5GiB GPU than 5GiB.
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Unless you have $1500 to spend I wouldnt even bother reading the article in the first post.

But, but, this is OCN. Someone is bound to get two of these in water and post it a week after release :O
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But, but, this is OCN. Someone is bound to get two of these in water and post it a week after release :O

Only two?
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wow, why on earth would anybody use that kind of setup, where are they supposed to intake air from?



This is a 4U chassis, and has the same wide 120s you see in the middle intaking from the fully messed front.




This barebone system is used by ppl that want to deploy multiple GPUs for general GPGPU tasks, either scientific calculations, financing, fluid dynamic simulations etc.
I would use it for GPU accelerated rendering (VRay RT GPU, Octane, iRay etc).

Unlike gaming, GPGPU doesn't care about crossfire/SLI etc (so their limitations to 4 or so GPUs don't matter), and can utilize RAM buffers bigger than what the bitrate would suggest is usable in gaming e.g. 4GB 256bit cards are actually better than 2GB versions if your data sets or scenes do require that much, unlike in gaming where if you cannot really access the whole buffer every clock cycle, the returns are diminishing. In most GPGPU tasks, buffer is "make it or break it"...if it doesn't fit, it doesn't run.
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This is a ridiculously powerful GPU! DAMN
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Duckie, since you know about everything there is to know about computers, is it more effective to have 64 bits of bus per GiB of VRAM or is it better to have 128 bits? The latter seems to be standard with a few exceptions (4GB GK107/Pitcarin/Curaco, 1GB Pitcairn, 2GB Bonaire, 6GB GK110, and 6GB Tahiti) or is it just based on simpler memory controllers? The 320-bit bus on this is more in line with a 2.5GiB GPU than 5GiB.

The width of the bus and the size of the memory are not really related.

The speed and the width of the memory are related however. Speed times width is the throughput.

It's best to have enough memory over faster memory. Once you have enough memory, faster and/or wider memory is better. How much memory is required is dependent on the application and it's settings.

The same applies to system RAM.

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This is a 4U chassis, and has the same wide 120s you see in the middle intaking from the fully messed front.

This barebone system is used by ppl that want to deploy multiple GPUs for general GPGPU tasks, either scientific calculations, financing, fluid dynamic simulations etc.
I would use it for GPU accelerated rendering (VRay RT GPU, Octane, iRay etc).

He might have meant the individual GPUs since their intake fans are on top and the other PCB's are restricting it.
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He might have meant the individual GPUs since their intake fans are on top and the other PCB's are restricting it.

Yeap...it is a tight fit, but not worse than all quad-SLI/CF on 8-slot boards or triple-SLI/CF on 6-7 slot boards we see. This thing can heat up a lil room just fine.
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The width of the bus and the size of the memory are not really related.

The speed and the width of the memory are related however. Speed times width is the throughput.

It's best to have enough memory over faster memory. Once you have enough memory, faster and/or wider memory is better. How much memory is required is dependent on the application and it's settings.

+Rep for the explanation. Oh wait... tongue.gif More memory is true to an extent. I'm not sure how much less of a bottleneck that DDR4 at maximum speeds will have over DDR at minimum speeds, but, for example, you wouldn't replace your RAM with an SSD if you needed more RAM because they're so slow comparatively. PCIe SSDs are just barely starting to tie DDR-266 for bandwidth. Isn't bus determined by the controller, and that's why you can double of half the amount of VRAM?
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+Rep for the explanation. Oh wait... tongue.gif More memory is true to an extent. I'm not sure how much less of a bottleneck that DDR4 at maximum speeds will have over DDR at minimum speeds, but, for example, you wouldn't replace your RAM with an SSD if you needed more RAM because they're so slow comparatively. PCIe SSDs are just barely starting to tie DDR-266 for bandwidth. Isn't bus determined by the controller, and that's why you can double of half the amount of VRAM?


Bus is determined by controller... the controller needs the physical pins to connect to the bus. You can't have a 64-bit bus with 63-pins (well, you can with some tricks but it's not efficient). You can also connect higher capacity RAM modules to a bus.

The benefit of DDR3-3000 vs DDR3-266 depends on the application as well. If you have a program that runs calculations that fit inside the CPU's L3 cache and doesn't hit main memory, faster RAM doesn't really help. However, if you have a program that processes 1GB arrays of numbers, faster memory can help.
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Simulations use gpu mostly. Recently released prepar3d version 2 is gpu dependent aviation sim. So you might want to use all gpu vram possible.
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