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notion that Bioware sucks which is a very misguided belief in the first place.

haven't it the other way around? Bioware being the good guy creating good universes and games whilst EA is on the side, being money-horny and destroy said games?
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haven't it the other way around? Bioware being the good guy creating good universes and games whilst EA is on the side, being money-horny and destroy said games?

The notion is evident in that other guy's post; EA corrupts good developers like Bioware and turns them evil. Bioware has now been turned to the dark side!
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Just Titanfall I think is only one im looking forward to
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The Witcher 3

After the mess that was Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age II I am not at all surprised by the lack of interest in the Inquisition. It seems Bioware is dead and has succumb to the evil that is EA just like many other studios before it. As much as I would like to see new Mass Effect, it's going to be a big wait and see for me after they ruined the ending to what could have been an epic trilogy, also they threw in multiplayer which ruined the entire vibe of the game for me.

How in the world was Mass Effect 3 a mess? I'm a HUGE Mass Effect fan, and Mass Effect 3 is hands down the best Mass Effect game in the series. Did you(and others) really believe that every tiny little decision you made throughout the game and the past 2 games would some how alter your ending? With the type of stakes Mass Effect 3 had, it was obvious there was going to be either just one set ending or a few variations based on a single choice. I knew, and expected that all along. That's the problem with most gamers these days, they're so damn entitled, right when a game offers some sort of consequence or reaction from a decision they made, they expect everything from then on to do the same.

Dragon Age II isn't a mess either. It was a disappointment sure, but far from a mess. Bioware actually managed to create a competent 50 hour RPG with industry leading character development in less than 18 months. The flaws are obvious, most obvious being the reuse of environments.

I don't know how anyone can seriously believe Bioware is 'dead', when they're one of the last big name studios making actual RPGs. Bioware is far from dead. If you actually payed attention to the development of Dragon Age Inquisition and didn't let your misguided stigma steer you away, you'd see that everything they've shown is very impressive and they look to surpass DAO, which likely won't happen but we'll see.

Another thing is, I don't understand why people always point to the last game in the series when trying to discredit an upcoming game. If DAI will be just like DA2, why wasn't DA2 just like DAO? That's the mentality most of you(people who claim DAI will suck, or Bioware is dead) have. No studio is perfect, Dragon Age II was easily Biowares worst game yet it's STILL better than most games coming out these days and remains one of the better RPGs in recent times.
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I feel like I am part of a minority placing the Mass Effect franchise on first place when it comes to best games ever played. Bioware's mistakes do stick out, aswell with EA's idiotic decision to (as I take it) rush the game. The third game really doesn't deserve all the **** is has taken. However, being someone who played Mass Effect 3 after the Extended Cut and all DLCs were released, the placement makes more sense, I take it.
We have yet to see if TW3's RPG elements will be better than the franchise's last games. But DA:I does look damn awesome in the Frostbite Engine. I have yet to hear anything to make me continue over to DA2 I haven't really heard much great about it. Hopefully, that view will change angle upon finishing Dragon Age: Origins biggrin.gif

I'm with you. As bored said, most of ME3's hate is just blind, bandwagon hate. They see everyone else hating so they do it to fit in. They likely don't even realize it.
Of course the only thing they can name is how bad the ending was(and if they bothered to replay it with the extended cut DLC, they'd see how fantastic it is now), because the rest of the game was incredible. They just let the general consensus sway their opinion until they actually believe themselves that the game was bad somehow.

As for TW3's RPG Elements, do you really expect them to change? I mean it could be SLIGHTLY more of an RPG if they actually bother making the decisions matter and make them less A or B type decisions. But that's just one hallmark of an RPG. TW3 will still NOT have multiple classes and play styles, just due to the game it is. You're a Witcher, where you only use two handed swords and a bit of magic. That won't change in The Witcher 3(though I thought I saw a bow in a screenshot? I could be wrong). Once again, I'm not saying the game will be bad. I genuinely want it to be good because I want to buy it, and enjoy it. But it just won't be a great RPG, definitely not better than any Dragon Age game, and that's why it just saddens me to see so many people ignore Bioware RPGs, all while claiming The Witcher is some sort of RPG masterpiece or the pinnacle of RPGs. With that mentality, true RPGs will be dead very shortly.
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Dragon Age:Inquisition (tops my list)
Alien:Isolation
Titanfall
Witcher 3
Mass Effect 4 - just looking for some real news. Hopefully something by June. Now back to another run thru the trilogy

I'm sure there are other that I'm forgetting.
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How in the world was Mass Effect 3 a mess? I'm a HUGE Mass Effect fan, and Mass Effect 3 is hands down the best Mass Effect game in the series. Did you(and others) really believe that every tiny little decision you made throughout the game and the past 2 games would some how alter your ending? With the type of stakes Mass Effect 3 had, it was obvious there was going to be either just one set ending or a few variations based on a single choice. I knew, and expected that all along. That's the problem with most gamers these days, they're so damn entitled, right when a game offers some sort of consequence or reaction from a decision they made, they expect everything from then on to do the same.

Mass Effect is a game you play for the journey, not the end. AND IT'S THE BEST JOURNEY EVER. I still can't believe there are Mass Effect fans who wont play the third game the reason being the most common notion about the end. Very very few games can make me cry. Mass Effect did it because of multiple reasons, the ending being one, because how good it was.
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As for TW3's RPG Elements, do you really expect them to change? I mean it could be SLIGHTLY more of an RPG if they actually bother making the decisions matter and make them less A or B type decisions. But that's just one hallmark of an RPG. TW3 will still NOT have multiple classes and play styles, just due to the game it is. You're a Witcher, where you only use two handed swords and a bit of magic. That won't change in The Witcher 3(though I thought I saw a bow in a screenshot? I could be wrong). Once again, I'm not saying the game will be bad. I genuinely want it to be good because I want to buy it, and enjoy it. But it just won't be a great RPG, definitely not better than any Dragon Age game, and that's why it just saddens me to see so many people ignore Bioware RPGs, all while claiming The Witcher is some sort of RPG masterpiece or the pinnacle of RPGs. With that mentality, true RPGs will be dead very shortly.

I never stated my thoughts having that in mind. Now when you say it, it really does limit it down quite hard. Not playing as Geralt would be a huge turn-off for a lot of fans, me included.
Aside from the praise towards The Witcher franchise for being a good game and having good looking visuals I think CDProject RED's point of view on hot topics is a factor too. The topic of DRM might have been cooled down with the latest year being expected in every AAA-game release. CDPR decided to stand against this and have confirmed that TW3 will be DRM-free, opposing almost every other publisher. As I know, they're also their own publisher, they are the creators and owners of gog.com (?) and they released a huge mod package for TW2. There are also the more minor factors, as prompting you with beautiful breast at the start of the game and calling it mature. Which, I guess, it is with Triss not being a whore.
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Now back to another run thru the trilogy

Damn right! There is always a reason to spend a couple of weeks replaying Mass Effect, getting flooded with feels and joy at the same time.
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Mass Effect is a game you play for the journey, not the end. AND IT'S THE BEST JOURNEY EVER. I still can't believe there are Mass Effect fans who wont play the third game the reason being the most common notion about the end. Very very few games can make me cry. Mass Effect did it because of multiple reasons, the ending being one, because how good it was.

I will never touch Mass Effect 3. It's not just because of the ending either. The entire storyline completely betrays the rest of the series. The series was about the consequences of your choices. You had the ability to make the universe a good or a bad place through your choices. Mass Effect 3 strips you of that ability and places you onto a completely linear path. Your choices are meaningless and main characters will die regardless of what you do. The game paints you as a worthless, powerless hero - just like Niko Bellic in GTA IV. That was absolutely not the case in the first two Mass Effects.

Combine that with some of the worst production quality that I have ever seen in a AAA title and you have yourself a game that is very much undeserving of being called a Mass Effect title. I didn't hate Mass Effect 3 because of the ending. I hated the whole thing.

This is coming from someone who loved Mass Effect 1. It could very well be one of the top 10 single player games that I have played. Mass Effect 2 wasn't as great but it was still an entertaining experience.
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I will never touch Mass Effect 3. It's not just because of the ending either. The entire storyline completely betrays the rest of the series. The series was about the consequences of your choices. You had the ability to make the universe a good or a bad place through your choices. Mass Effect 3 strips you of that ability and places you onto a completely linear path. Your choices are meaningless and main characters will die regardless of what you do. The game paints you as a worthless, powerless hero - just like Niko Bellic in GTA IV. That was absolutely not the case in the first two Mass Effects.

Combine that with some of the worst production quality that I have ever seen in a AAA title and you have yourself a game that is very much undeserving of being called a Mass Effect title. I didn't hate Mass Effect 3 because of the ending. I hated the whole thing.

This is coming from someone who loved Mass Effect 1. It could very well be one of the top 10 single player games that I have played. Mass Effect 2 wasn't as great but it was still an entertaining experience.

Same here, diehard fan since the first game and I agree with pretty much everything you said after playing the game twice. You are exactly right about the limited choices you have in the 3rd game, completely ruins the formula that made the game what it was. The production value is noticeably worse than the first 2 installments, it was pretty apparent in the models of the Cerberus Atlas dull textures and stiff animations. The only memorable moments from ME3 were Mordin's death and resolving the conflict between Tali and Legion, other than that it was a pretty meh game.
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I will never touch Mass Effect 3. It's not just because of the ending either. The entire storyline completely betrays the rest of the series. The series was about the consequences of your choices. You had the ability to make the universe a good or a bad place through your choices. Mass Effect 3 strips you of that ability and places you onto a completely linear path. Your choices are meaningless and main characters will die regardless of what you do. The game paints you as a worthless, powerless hero - just like Niko Bellic in GTA IV. That was absolutely not the case in the first two Mass Effects.

You couldn't be more wrong. The consequences of your choices are even greater in ME3, the path is no less linear than the previous. You come across the hardest decisions you'll ever have to make in the franchise, making an even bigger impact on the galaxy, and they're just as multidimensional as the ones in the previous games so they matter just as much.

The only "limited choice" is... the ending. But you, like most others, only speak of the ending when slandering the game, however you just aren't aware of this since apparently you haven't played the game. Seems like you read someone's comment about the game on the internet and made their words your own. rolleyes.gif

There's no predefined fate for your companions either, they won't "die regardless of what you do". And considering that Shepard alone is responsible for the fate of the galaxy, you are the farthest thing from a powerless hero. If you want to see an RPG that actually fits your description, look at The Witcher 2.
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Combine that with some of the worst production quality that I have ever seen in a AAA title and you have yourself a game that is very much undeserving of being called a Mass Effect title. I didn't hate Mass Effect 3 because of the ending. I hated the whole thing.

This is coming from someone who loved Mass Effect 1. It could very well be one of the top 10 single player games that I have played. Mass Effect 2 wasn't as great but it was still an entertaining experience.

Production quality is at least as good as ME2 and much better than ME1. What are you going on about now? It's less buggy than ME2 and certainly less than ME1, and ME3's gameplay has improved tremendously. Visual quality is a little bit better than ME2 as are the sound effects, animations are essentially the same as ME2.
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You couldn't be more wrong. The consequences of your choices are even greater in ME3, the path is no less linear than the previous. You come across the hardest decisions you'll ever have to make in the franchise, making an even bigger impact on the galaxy, and they're just as multidimensional as the ones in the previous games so they matter just as much.

The only "limited choice" is... the ending. But you, like most others, only speak of the ending when slandering the game, however you just aren't aware of this since apparently you haven't played the game. Seems like you read someone's comment about the game on the internet and made their words your own. rolleyes.gif

There's no predefined fate for your companions either, they won't "die regardless of what you do". And considering that Shepard alone is responsible for the fate of the galaxy, you are the farthest thing from a powerless hero. If you want to see an RPG that actually fits your description, look at The Witcher 2.
Production quality is at least as good as ME2 and much better than ME1. What are you going on about now? It's less buggy than ME2 and certainly less than ME1, and ME3's gameplay has improved tremendously. Visual quality is a little bit better than ME2 as are the sound effects, animations are essentially the same as ME2.

That's the problem; the choices are insane. What made Mass Effect 1 so good was that the choices were realistic; do you let the scientist on vermire live? Do you shoot Wrex? Mass Effect 3 just went completely insane: "You must choose which rave lives and dies (Geth, Quarian)" - but it only works if you have enough Renegade/Paragon points (or an interrupt). "You must choose to make the Geth Hyper intelligent" - "You must choose...." The list goes on. It felt fake; all just to make it seem like the player was making big choices. Even if you were basically a space-god (you basically are after ME2), you still don't have an influence over everyone ALL the time.

Mass Effect 1 did it much MUCH better. There were a few big choices, but they weren't absolutely insane - the order of missions, wrex, the rachni, etc. While large choices, they all logically made sense. The commander gets to chose mission order. You're standing RIGHT THERE with a gun with Wrex. All you had to do was press the button for the Rachni. ME2, and then ME3 decided to give Shepard an absolutely insane level of influence which ends up hurting the game more than helping it.

Playing through ME1, you'll run into on a very select few cases where you couldn't think "Yea, they forced this choice for the story". ME2 and 3 had so many forced choices for the sake of the story that it made the game far less immersive. Put it this way: I beat ME1 in two days - well over 10hrs a day - and then I immediately did a new game+. It took me over a MONTH to beat ME2 and 3 months for ME3. I've yet to play either through again - they're just far worse games.

One of the best examples is the council vs. reapers. In ME1, no one believes Shepard; that makes sense. He had insane hallucinations (according to the council) about an ancient myth - but then you talk to one, it tries to kill everything, you finally kill it, Saren admits to all of this stuff. There's literally a mountain of proof. But in ME2, we still need a conflict, just so that we can have the most POINTLESS mid-point to a story in recent time; so.... "ah yes. Reapers." And that's another thing - the entire plot of ME2 is entirely pointless. You can literally play ME1 and then ME3 and get 99% of the overarching story.

Then there's the gameplay... oh wow. Where did my RPG go? Minor armor changes? Only a few stats? About 5 guns? No squad armor? Seriously? And then thermal clips. Wow. Let's make it even more of your average military-FPS game - we need space ammo. Was it possible to exploit ME1's system with heatsinks? Yea. But it was easily fixable. ME2/3 just took the easy way out.

Now, does that mean ME2/3 are bad games? No - they're still very good. The problem is, they diverged so insanely far from the original formula that it makes fans of the first have a hard time liking 2 and 3 (at least I do). It's the exact same problem the Crysis series had.
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LG Blu-Ray-RW  Corsair H70 3x Corsair AF 120 Silent Edition 2x AF 140 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 x64 Home Premium Asus VG248QE Asus VG248QE Ducky Shine 3 (MX Black) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX 1200 Corsair 450D Razer Deathadder 2013 Creative X-FI Titanium HD 
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Sennheiser PC 350 
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Core i7 740QM GTX 460m 2x 4gb DDR3 OCZ Agility 3 
OSMonitor
Windows 7 x64 15.1" (1920x1080) 
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