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I really really appreciate your posts Jack, they're really helpful. For now, I think I'll probably stick with the Hero although as I get closer to buying I may just switch to the Formula. The newer batches of the 750D are supposed to have been fixed on the standoff issue that forced people to remove the backplate. I'll look over RAM modules more too, I'm a fan of Corsair's products so I kind of just picked what I knew.

I'll give storage another look at, I just know I'll need a lot of it and from what I've read it's better to spread it out for portions of the process for example not reading files from the same harddrive you'd be rendering to. ASUS had or has the best 780 Ti? Obviously the cooling doesn't matter as I'd be going for waterblocks. But what about the clock speeds and whatnot, does ASUS overclock better than the others?

Did you find the 750D confining because of the loop in that picture? It's a nice looking loop but it's a little more than I would be looking at doing. As for the drain port you showed, that would be amazing and exactly what I would look to be going for. Nice and clean. With a quick disconnect like that how would it work for draining, I imagine that I just plug in a piece of tubing that plugs into it and drains out? If so seems simple enough. I see a lot of people post about shut valves which I understand. The dye in the loop looks pretty nice and I'd rather have clear tubing with colored dye because it would be much easier to see if there's something wrong with the liquid.

Nice to know about the VRAM tested. I wouldn't plan on doing 7680x1440 much, just for occasional driving experience and maybe Battlefield 3/4. Again, I really appreciate your posts.
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I really really appreciate your posts Jack, they're really helpful. For now, I think I'll probably stick with the Hero although as I get closer to buying I may just switch to the Formula. The newer batches of the 750D are supposed to have been fixed on the standoff issue that forced people to remove the backplate. I'll look over RAM modules more too, I'm a fan of Corsair's products so I kind of just picked what I knew.

I'll give storage another look at, I just know I'll need a lot of it and from what I've read it's better to spread it out for portions of the process for example not reading files from the same harddrive you'd be rendering to. ASUS had or has the best 780 Ti? Obviously the cooling doesn't matter as I'd be going for waterblocks. But what about the clock speeds and whatnot, does ASUS overclock better than the others?

Did you find the 750D confining because of the loop in that picture? It's a nice looking loop but it's a little more than I would be looking at doing. As for the drain port you showed, that would be amazing and exactly what I would look to be going for. Nice and clean. With a quick disconnect like that how would it work for draining, I imagine that I just plug in a piece of tubing that plugs into it and drains out? If so seems simple enough. I see a lot of people post about shut valves which I understand. The dye in the loop looks pretty nice and I'd rather have clear tubing with colored dye because it would be much easier to see if there's something wrong with the liquid.

Nice to know about the VRAM tested. I wouldn't plan on doing 7680x1440 much, just for occasional driving experience and maybe Battlefield 3/4. Again, I really appreciate your posts.

Gotta go with what ya comfy with....tho if ya stay in that price range do look at the GD-65 .... I do a lotta builds for others with $175-$200 MoBos and the reviews are very one sided in this niche.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_z87_gd65_gaming/12.htm
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MSI has been using components that meet or exceed MIL-STD-810G for some time as part of its Military Class build philosophy. Parts such as Super Ferrite Chokes that run at up to 35 degree Celsius lower temperatures, have a 30% higher current handling capacity, and a 20% improvement in power efficiency; Tantalum filled Hi-C Caps that are are up to 93% efficient; and "Dark Capacitors" that feature Lower ESR and a ten-year lifespan all tied into a PCB with improved temperature and humidity protections as part of the "Military Essentials" package......In the end MSI's Z87-GD65 is a board that comes with an expansive feature set that includes all your basics and the extras that set them apart such as the V-Check points, upper end audio, Dual BIOS ROMs, KIller Network package, Military Class IV package, and a three-year warranty. Couple that with good looks that carry the dragon theme through the board, and you have a winning combination at $189.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z87_gd65_gaming_review/15
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Now and again a motherboard appears that is so obviously brilliant, and so affordable, that we wonder if anything will be able to top it. For a while that crown was held by the ASUS Sabertooth, both in X58 and then P67 variants. Then MSI stole the crown with the Z77 MPower. Looking at the Z87 GD65 Gaming we think it's going to take something extraordinary to top it, such is the perfect storm of price, performance, features and looks.

The switch to Military Class 4 has given us an extremely ready overclocker too. You're always thermally limited when overclocking and the i7-4770K is one of the most demanding around. Considering the amount of cooling we're using we think that although the GD65 is capable of bringing 5GHz from our i7-4770K you'd need a proper water loop to make the most of it.

Performance is outstanding. The stock results were a particular highlight. We know a lot of people still just like to put their CPU in and go, without overclocking it first. Despite how easy it is these days we know that the fear factor still exists. So you'll be glad to know that the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming really rocks hard even at stock settings. Naturally the overclocking is blistering too, with some OC3D records broken.

MSI have laid the gauntlet down to all the other manufacturers. Gorgeous to look at, blistering performance and all at a very affordable price, the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming is not only the new benchmark for Z87 motherboards, but probably for all motherboards.

Still as good as that board is, the M6F is in a class by itself..... that was one of the reasons my loop is so open in the middle....so you can see the beauty of it.

Most video heads use RAID 0 for their editing efforts, straight storage for archiving

I can only speak to the 780 .... it had the best PCB and most robust VRM design outta "the big 4 (Giga, Asus, EVGA, MSI) whiuch made it the continual OC winner in reviews. I know the 780 and 780 Ti are very similar but do not know exactly what the extent of the differences are.

As for the case..... one thing is I didn't want is to have the PSU under anything with water in it..... I also wanted the pump vibration and res mounting issues pre-addressed.....I wanted quiet so 140mm rads was a requirement and I wanted plenty of room to work in.... And the other thing....tho I do plan on sleeving the cables, the case design is such that you can't see them....hence my lack of progress smile.gif

The way the QD works.... you take the drain tube outta the drawer put a bucket under it, twist in and it drains. Well not exactly....you do have to open something else to let air in or water won't move.... valve on top of res and top rad ports work. Oh if ya go that route ... make sure to get some blue Loctite and apply to the thds on horizontal portion but NOT to the rad connection. Ya need the Loctite cause ya can't grip the under rad part at all.

Here's what's in the drawer.

Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Female w/ G1/4 Thread (BP-MBQDFG14)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17965/ex-tub-1635/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Female_w_G14_Thread_BP-MBQDFG14.html

Bitspower G1/4 Thread 3/8" ID x 1/2" OD Rotary Compression Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBRCPF-CC2) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11107/ex-tub-700/Bitspower_G14_Thread_38_ID_x_12_OD_Rotary_Compression_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBRCPF-CC2.html?tl=c409s1032b145

Tygon 2475 Ultra Chemical Resistant Plasticizer Free Tubing - 3/8" ID (1/2" OD) - Clear (ACG00027)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10691/ex-tub-663/Tygon_2475_Ultra_Chemical_Resistant_Plasticizer_Free_Tubing_-_38_ID_12_OD_-_Clear_ACG00027.html

There's also a 30mm extender on there but just cause I had it left over and it give me a better grip.



Edited by JackNaylorPE - 1/6/14 at 8:19pm
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911 Carrera
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel w/ EK Supremacy Cooling Block - Clean P... Asus Maximus VI Formula 2 x Asus GTX 780 DCII w/ EK Full Cover Blocks a... Mushkin Red Line Ridgeback 2 x 8GB DDR302400 10... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2 x SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB (2 x Seagate ST2000DX001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cach... Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blue Ray Writer 1 x Alphacool NexXxoS XT45-420 + 1 x Alphacool ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
1 x Swiftech 35x2 w/ Heatsink and NB Fan EK -MultiOption RES X3 250 White Acetal Reservoir 5 x PH-F140SP_BK_BLED + 5 x PH-F140SP_BK E22 Rigid 10/12 Acrylic Tubing and Bitspower Ma... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2 x Reeven Six Eyes Fan Controller Windows 7 64 Bit Professional OEM ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor Logitech G19s 920-004985 
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Seasonic X-1250 Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate Chassis Asus RoG GX950 Laser Mouse  Logitech Z5500 
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