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No. SteamOS is Linux and therefor is open. And Valve have stated they wish to keep it that way. They have no plans to make it a closed system ( aside from Steam of course ). You'll be able to play any game for Linux, or use any program for Linux ( such as Wine / POL, if you want the Windows games and programs ).

linux being entirely open is not true take macOS for example which runs a derivative of unix which shares the same family as linux but its entirely locked down however as long as valve desire to keep it open then it shall remain
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linux being entirely open is not true take macOS for example which runs a derivative of unix which shares the same family as linux but its entirely locked down however as long as valve desire to keep it open then it shall remain

No. God no.

OSX is UNIX certified, and is more akin to BSD, with parts from a few projects integrated. Apple have kept all of it open source as well, you can go download it in full from their site ( just Google for Darwin from Apple, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_OS ).

The only thing not open source, and the only thing locked down is Apples own proprietary software that they themselves have developed.

This idiotic misconception that OSX is locked down is really out of hand. You can do ANYTHING in OSX that you can in Linux. You can even drop Apples proprietary GUI and run X along with your favorite Desktop Environments or Window Manager from Linux. There is NOTHING locked down about the system other than Apples proprietary software which doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things.

Apple also contribute to the open source community and chances are if you're running Linux you're using the CUPS printing daemon which has been under Apples control for quite a while now. There's also many other contributions they've made to BSD, Linux, and some of the other open source communities.

As long as Valve, Apple or any of these other companies are using open source technology, then the source MUST remain open no matter what. Which means it will NEVER be locked down in a sense that people like to make it out to be. They can lock down and close source their own proprietary software stacks, but they can not lock down or close source any open source code.

The only locked down system here that's notably worth mentioning is Microsoft. For which you can do far less in than any Unix-like system.
Edited by Shrak - 1/6/14 at 6:19pm
post #73 of 75
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No. God no.

OSX is UNIX certified, and is more akin to BSD, with parts from a few projects integrated. Apple have kept all of it open source as well, you can go download it in full from their site ( just Google for Darwin from Apple, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_OS ).

The only thing not open source, and the only thing locked down is Apples own proprietary software that they themselves have developed.

This idiotic misconception that OSX is locked down is really out of hand. You can do ANYTHING in OSX that you can in Linux. You can even drop Apples proprietary GUI and run X along with your favorite Desktop Environments or Window Manager from Linux. There is NOTHING locked down about the system other than Apples proprietary software which doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things.

Apple also contribute to the open source community and chances are if you're running Linux you're using the CUPS printing daemon which has been under Apples control for quite a while now. There's also many other contributions they've made to BSD, Linux, and some of the other open source communities.

As long as Valve, Apple or any of these other companies are using open source technology, then the source MUST remain open no matter what. Which means it will NEVER be locked down in a sense that people like to make it out to be. They can lock down and close source their own proprietary software stacks, but they can not lock down or close source any open source code.

The only locked down system here that's notably worth mentioning is Microsoft. For which you can do far less in than any Unix-like system.


Simmer down
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I'll take back what I said about the SteamBox if they can truly market one of these with an R9 270 for $499. a
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Shrak has a point. CUPS is awesome these days.
 
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