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I am completely down with the 140 radiator, just wondering what it actually is and still waiting for more press on this.
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That new Komodo is hideous lol. I've always thought XSPC blocks looked cheap and gaudy for their led-lit acrylic bits, but this block just takes it to a new level.

And it's a shame that asetek's patent trolling has forced swiftech to come up with the odd reservoir config on the new aios. It just doesn't make any sense froma practical standpoint, as it limits fan configs and will interfere with 5.25" bay and HDD mounting in a lot of cases.
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That new Komodo is hideous lol. I've always thought XSPC blocks looked cheap and gaudy for their led-lit acrylic bits, but this block just takes it to a new level.

And it's a shame that asetek's patent trolling has forced swiftech to come up with the odd reservoir config on the new aios. It just doesn't make any sense froma practical standpoint, as it limits fan configs and will interfere with 5.25" bay and HDD mounting in a lot of cases.
The new block looks good. The new H220x wont block ODD bay, as seen in the video you can still use the drive, and same goes for HDD.
You can have either push or pull on top of the rad.
    
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I think people who treat modding their PC to look like art to match a minimalist room ascetic are going to find these new komodo blocks disgustingly hideous. People who like to bling out their PCs just for the sake of drawing attention to it might like the new blocks. I'm curious how the water cooling market is segmented in that relation.
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The new block looks good. The new H220x wont block ODD bay, as seen in the video you can still use the drive, and same goes for HDD.
You can have either push or pull on top of the rad.

I guess aesthetics are subjective, it looks awful to me. I could see that res causing issues with wiring and some 5.25" accessories, especially in small cases. And it will definitely interfere with with hard drive cages in a bunch of cases out there if you were mount it on the front of the chassis. It's just taking up a bunch of space that could have been saved by incorporating the res into the block. And yeah, you can only run push or pull at the top of the rad... it prevents push-pull altogether, and won't allow people to run a push exhaust setup. There are fans out there that only work in push (eloops for instance) so you'd be stuck with using the fans as intakes. It's far from an ideal setup.
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post #106 of 428
I'm really surprised it seems Swiftech has failed to address the big issue with the past versions of those radiators, the fact the pump is just hard mounted again means it will create vibration and be a fair bit louder than a decoupled pump.

Disappointed personally, i thought they would have at least dampened the pump properly from the radiator. I was looking forward to future revisions only to feel let down.

I will likely just put all WC gear in an external case in future, not going to waste any more time or money on things like this when they don't meet my expectations.
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I guess aesthetics are subjective, it looks awful to me. I could see that res causing issues with wiring and some 5.25" accessories, especially in small cases. And it will definitely interfere with with hard drive cages in a bunch of cases out there if you were mount it on the front of the chassis. It's just taking up a bunch of space that could have been saved by incorporating the res into the block. And yeah, you can only run push or pull at the top of the rad... it prevents push-pull altogether, and won't allow people to run a push exhaust setup. There are fans out there that only work in push (eloops for instance) so you'd be stuck with using the fans as intakes. It's far from an ideal setup.

1. Looks are subjective; I only build PCs for aesthetics and love the look of the new blocks

2. Some cases it can be an issue, bu most it most likely won't as long as you wire the stuff in the top front bays first. This rad is shorter than the previous iteration, and all other models the same size, of which usually also block drive bays, so the new variantnwill fit up top in more cases than the previous models and not block any more bays than previous AIOs in cases as a whole. Also, one of Asetek's "Patents" was about incorporating a res in the block, so that was a no-go.

3. Push/Pull on this particular design of radiator nets almost no performance gain (~1*C, same as the H220), yet you can still fit push/pull on half of it. Only one fan slot is blocked by the pump.
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The new block looks good. The new H220x wont block ODD bay, as seen in the video you can still use the drive, and same goes for HDD.
You can have either push or pull on top of the rad.

I guess aesthetics are subjective, it looks awful to me. I could see that res causing issues with wiring and some 5.25" accessories, especially in small cases. And it will definitely interfere with with hard drive cages in a bunch of cases out there if you were mount it on the front of the chassis. It's just taking up a bunch of space that could have been saved by incorporating the res into the block. And yeah, you can only run push or pull at the top of the rad... it prevents push-pull altogether, and won't allow people to run a push exhaust setup. There are fans out there that only work in push (eloops for instance) so you'd be stuck with using the fans as intakes. It's far from an ideal setup.
I agree that is one thing that sucks you can't run push in exhaust. For me on the 550d if I put it in the top of the case it has to be intake if I want push which is not ideal.
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I'm really surprised it seems Swiftech has failed to address the big issue with the past versions of those radiators, the fact the pump is just hard mounted again means it will create vibration and be a fair bit louder than a decoupled pump.

Disappointed personally, i thought they would have at least dampened the pump properly from the radiator. I was looking forward to future revisions only to feel let down.

I will likely just put all WC gear in an external case in future, not going to waste any more time or money on things like this when they don't meet my expectations.

The pump on the H220X is decoupled from the rad, per Bryan @Swiftech. This is a non-issue now.
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I agree that is one thing that sucks you can't run push in exhaust. For me on the 550d if I put it in the top of the case it has to be intake if I want push which is not ideal.

IIRC pull exhaust statistically is no different in performance on these rads than push exhaust, based on the MCR220-QP core.
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