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According to G3D and TPU a Titan draws a maximum of 250-260 W, so you're absolutely fine with a 700 W PSU.
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According to G3D and TPU a Titan draws a maximum of 250-260 W, so you're absolutely fine with a 700 W PSU.

Yeah, I think they meant full system draw. Our 780Ti with a 4770K OCed did not pull over 430W when running LINX and Furmark at the same time.
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Yeah, I think they meant full system draw. Our 780Ti with a 4770K OCed did not pull over 430W when running LINX and Furmark at the same time.

780ti at stock though right?
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780ti at stock though right?

Correct, I overvolted a GTX 480 and was able to get a 560W draw on the system. Of course, not on a 500W psu.
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What OC settings on 4770k?
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What OC settings on 4770k?

I don't have the exact system on me so I can't check. But I do remember we are using a Maximum Impact motherboard and the CPU is at 4.3 GHz
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But power usage at 1.4v is like ~2x higher than 1.1v so it's somewhat relevant
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Exactly...Have a few customers calling me already asking about these...

Would be nice, really nice, if they were available separately.

Super nice. Awesome, in fact.
Lol, I just want one to play with...

My distributor has access to the 500w so, I knew 500w existed but, never knew the 700w existed.

Again, throwing a Titan in that, even with 700w...I'm not too sure about but, if they tackle efficiency a little bit, maybe some higher end components...That changes the game.

Having a form factor case with a mini-atx capable of 700~750 means you could actually reliably run a Titan...In a form factor case...That's kind of a big deal...Thus I mentioned this like 4 times...Here's a 5th, imagine running a Titan or a 290x reliably in a form factor case...

You don't need 700W to run, reliably, a Titan. You simply don't. Nor you need above 500W to do so, not on mITX where you are limited to 1155 and 1150. People are running high end systems with their 450W SFX psu's without problems. I have no idea where you get such ideas...

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Agreed, if I could fit my Ti and my sound card into a SFF case that was stylish and had water cooling for CPU, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

With that said, I wonder if there is a way to provide a riser card for a 1x PCI slot for sound cards? I'd hate to give up my Titanium HD. Onboard sound is crap.

Get USB sound?


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Oh, I know the 1U's existed but, those aren't really up to snuff...ATX ratings vary...Once you get into the soup to nuts of stuff, they don't quite fit the bill.

I disagree about running a Titan on 450w -- While possible, under load, it's been proven that the Titan draws well over 300w -- In fact, in Guru's and Tom's reviews of the card, Guru3d peaked at @ 475w...Constant load? No...But it maintains the ability to force-draw...Running a Titan on anything less than 500w and I'd call you crazy. It doesn't mean you can't do it, it's YOUR Titan but, you're essentially cutting it down to it's knees.

Proven how? Where? By whom?
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PSU efficiency doesn't work like that...Efficiency is in relation to what you draw from the wall not the output to your system.

For example, if you use 300W, but pull 400W from the wall, then the efficiency is 300W/400W, or 75%.

So if you're using 500w, you realistically pull @625w from the wall.

No, it isn't. Power usage is measured at the wall, and thus why you subtract efficiency to calculate what the psu is actually delivering to the system. A psu rated @ 500W means it can deliver up to 500W to the computer... and, obviously, will take more from the plug. Because the power usage has to be measured at the wall, you are doing calculations the wrong way.

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-performance-review,3442-12.html

Tom's - Max voltage peak was 450w. Average was 410w.

Techspot - 375w-400w

This isn't even overclocked or boosted, this is bone stock.

Most of the reviews rated from 375-425 but, didn't do the same scaling plot that Tom's does.

Let me TLDR this - If you're using a Titan, which at peak consumes anywhere from 400w-475w and you're using this card on a 500w PSU then you absolutely deserve what happens to you when it peaks.

Even on average, using a 400w card in a 500w PSU is...Wow.

Even a 3930k/motherboard consumes 200w-300w...That's not even that high.

What are you going to do? Cripple the system with a 100w CPU and a Titan? Bottleneck, anyone?

I wouldn't even use a 300w card in that system...rolleyes.gif

What?! This comes from Hardocp, using a similar system of what you would use on a real mITX system:

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And this are the measurements:

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Note: this measurements were taken at the wall, which means that the psu was delivering to the system, accepting a 90% efficiency, around 360W. Even with a 450 or 500W psu you have plenty of power to spare. So, you can even overclock a little.

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Yeah, I think they meant full system draw. Our 780Ti with a 4770K OCed did not pull over 430W when running LINX and Furmark at the same time.

Thank you. This furthers the objective data published by everyone else. Basically, you loaded every single component of the computer at 110% (since Furmark and LINX create artificial loads that no other real usage will ever show)... annnnd, at the wall, measured barely above 400W. I bet that on normal usage such system wouldn't go above 380W... at the wall.
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But power usage at 1.4v is like ~2x higher than 1.1v so it's somewhat relevant

Proof to sustain that, please?
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Also with parts becoming more efficient, I think 500W will be the sweet spot for a while. As long as the power supplies actually supply the power they are rated for.
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Proof to sustain that, please?

Sin's numbers, not mine

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91w @1.09v (4770k under wprime which is closer to x264 than ibt and way lower than prime95/linx) and scaling suggests 200w by 1.4v

Ofc that's with some frequency change but most of the power scaling is voltage


I just ask because some people get a good chip and consider 4.5ghz at 1.15v to be a good OC, others will delid and run 1.35-1.4v on a 240 rad clc - friend of mine's running 1.47 on a h110 in push pull
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