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High-end maxwell might take several months to arrive. Overpricing? Digital Storm is a company, and thus they are here for a profit. They have also said that they are thinking about selling the case alone in several months, in case you want it that badly, but don't expect it to be cheap, because it won't.

Anyway, I don't recommend the ACX on this case, nor any other cooler that isn't the stock, reference one. Temperatures would be horrible.

This case uses much the same configuration as my Raven RVZ01, and I have a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X in there and it runs very cool. Max temp I see if 68-70*C. There is no reason why you couldn't use an open fan card in this case.
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Sad that OCN allows a company to push their product on us. I thought these were unbiased forums.

I would like to say that I am not pushing anything on anyone. Im just merely answering questions that people have.
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Sad that OCN allows a company to push their product on us. I thought these were unbiased forums.

Most of us just want the case, not the full system. I really don't see anything wrong with HW Reps announcing/posting a new product here to showcase.
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Don't see why there's such hatred here. It's a great product. No, it's not for everyone. Let's get the obvious out of the way: Yes, a DIYer with budget limitations and considerations will likely get something else. No, I wouldn't buy the full system either, even though I can appreciate it for what it is - it is excellent.

Anyway, It's not like anything underhanded is happening here, as someone else mentioned. I could totally see how someone with not a lot of time and a lot of disposable income would be interested in this - a lot of dudes work 60+ hours a week and just don't feel like assembling their own stuff. I'm actually in the 60+ hour workweek category, although I still build my stuff because I enjoy it as a hobby. Some guys find it to be a hassle though, I have more than one friend of this mindset - a lot of dudes just don't like screwing with DIY. This is right up their alley. Like I said though, it's clearly not for everyone. I just don't see the reason for the hate here. I could see it if it were a bad product, but from what I can tell it's a fantastic one.
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Sad that OCN allows a company to push their product on us. I thought these were unbiased forums.

I can't tell if you're trolling but I'm going to assume you're serious for now. Can you please point me to where the forum states that it is unbiased? And how is DS pushing their product on us? The rep is just answering questions in this thread if you have been reading. Let's lose the negativity here as it's totally unnecessary and keep the discussion on track. Thanks to the DS rep for answering all our questions!
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In regards to the ACX cooler being horrible in this case, there is ventilation right on top of the graphics card and on the side of the graphics card. There is no reason why it would perform horrible in the Bolt II. Here are two images for reference:




By ventilation you mean holes on the case. In my experience, and over some long use sessions, you will make the case hot, and the whole system will suffer the temperature increase. At the end of the day, with non-reference coolers you are dumping 300w of heat into the case. And because you have no fan into it, you will be re-circulating a nice chunk of that air once and again because there is nothing pushing in or out the hot air.

Even on cases that have the ability to push the hot air out (which isn't the case in the Bolt II regarding the graphics card, because its isolated on top) a non-reference card will affect the general system's temperature but, in this case, the effect will probably be bigger. Sure, the cpu temp won't raise, but you will screw with the gpu temperature.

BTW: just release the damn thing as a whole so I can get it or forget about it smile.gif
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By ventilation you mean holes on the case. In my experience, and over some long use sessions, you will make the case hot, and the whole system will suffer the temperature increase. At the end of the day, with non-reference coolers you are dumping 300w of heat into the case. And because you have no fan into it, you will be re-circulating a nice chunk of that air once and again because there is nothing pushing in or out the hot air.

Even on cases that have the ability to push the hot air out (which isn't the case in the Bolt II regarding the graphics card, because its isolated on top) a non-reference card will affect the general system's temperature but, in this case, the effect will probably be bigger. Sure, the cpu temp won't raise, but you will screw with the gpu temperature.

BTW: just release the damn thing as a whole so I can get it or forget about it smile.gif

In extreme cases, there is space up top for fans to push air in or out. You are correct that it will increase the overall chassis temp.

On a side note, it is released, just not as a standalone chassis biggrin.gif.
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In extreme cases, there is space up top for fans to push air in or out. You are correct that it will increase the overall chassis temp.

On a side note, it is released, just not as a standalone chassis biggrin.gif.

Wops, meant to say released as a standalone chassis thumb.gif
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Wops, meant to say released as a standalone chassis thumb.gif

Well I hope you've got time because it might be a while.... wink.gif
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For the price of one of these you can build a custom system with far more power and better cooling than this. So...I don't get it O_o
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