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I have a question. I've already decided by both testing and experience that windows loves that the page file is on, some apps I use and games crash without it. I'm wondering if I wasn't concerned about the read and writes, would it be more beneficial speed wise to place the page file on my SSD. windows is installed on my SSD and my HDD is my secondary drive. I have the windows default page file placed on my secondary HDD. I haven't noticed any real issues except a few crashes which i'm not sure is related yet, specifically hawken, but is it better to keep the page file where the windows OS is installed, and on my SSD?
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You bought your SSD for maximum system performance, and putting the page file there will ensure you get the best performance, right?

If you're concerned about wearing out the SSD, I wouldn't be that worried -- you're talking about a few hundred MB being written out to the page file when the operating system and applications are loaded, and there it sits. As long as your system has sufficient RAM, it won't page unnecessarily.

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post #3 of 17
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So having it on the SSD will be the fastest option I can choose. Now I have to let you know I specifically chose to follow corsair SSD pdf guide. Which is easy to find just Google it. They note from experience and for there drives they have found its best to put the page file on a secondary hard drive meaning a HDD. This is where I originally saw this. I also noticed I recovered a significant amount of space removing it from the SSD. Also i believe that the more ram you have the larger the windows default page file is. Which is a issue taking up space on your SSD.
Edited by Jedson3614 - 1/6/14 at 1:53pm
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Place your paging file on the SSD....

Wear shouldn't be a concern since you won't be writing more than 10GB a day. Unless you are running something like a database off the SSDs, it's hard to hit 20GB or 50GB daily.
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You guys say to place it on the SSD but i'm not really concerned about read and writes I want to know based on the corsair PDF they state " Its negligible" speed wise and offers additional storage to the SSD. It cant really measurably be that much more beneficial to just keep the page file on SSD or HDD, i'm guessing there isn't much a of a difference at most. I haven't been able to see any noticeable speed difference using either or, I cant find any benchmarks or raw data to prove this. just speculation based on experience.
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Have lots of RAM, 16gb or more. Then have a very small 256mb swap file on your platter drive.



That's enough space for what Windows really needs the swap file for if you have ample RAM. I haven't encountered any software that won't work properly with this configuration.
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post #7 of 17
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Yes I have mine setup on HDD windows default.Based on the corsair guide.
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From Microsoft:
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Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?

Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well.

In looking at telemetry data from thousands of traces and focusing on pagefile reads and writes, we find that
  • Pagefile.sys reads outnumber pagefile.sys writes by about 40 to 1,
  • Pagefile.sys read sizes are typically quite small, with 67% less than or equal to 4 KB, and 88% less than 16 KB.
  • Pagefile.sys writes are relatively large, with 62% greater than or equal to 128 KB and 45% being exactly 1 MB in size.

In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.

Mind, I've actually had experience with OS on a tiny SSD (40GB) and pagefile on HDD. The performance decrease when you've run out of RAM and have to hit the pagefile is not negligible at all. The performance hit was particularly noticeable when I've had Firefox minimized for a while and then try to restore it. It felt like I was back to using an HDD with how long it took to reopen the window.

If you've got plenty of RAM, then I recommend a fixed 256MB-1GB pagefile on the SSD. Don't let Windows manage the paging file size since by default, the pagefile it creates is usually too big (around 1-1.5x of RAM, iirc).
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I see your point but are you saying a top tier gaming company like corsair is utterly and outright incorrect and wrong, perhaps ill call them and check on this. Why would they suggest such a thing when they are king on speed?
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I see your point but are you saying a top tier gaming company like corsair is utterly and outright incorrect and wrong, perhaps ill call them and check on this. Why would they suggest such a thing when they are king on speed?

Yes, because the OS developers know more about the OS than a gaming company and have the data to prove it.
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