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Do any of you in this forum know of the best SSD tweak guide ?
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Do any of you in this forum know of the best SSD tweak guide ?

Im going to recommend the usual one:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

Post 3 is probably the best for you right now

But I get the feeling that you arent going to listen because we dont all work for brand name companies and therfore cant know what we are talking about.
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I love corsair but that doesn't mean I don't know what i'm talking about or doing. I have worked with computers for a long time, especially hardware. I actually am going to move my page file over to the SSD per the advice here, I know what the page file is I just wanted to know based on what corsair said if there really was that much of a difference. I'm thinking of upgrading past windows 7 anyway after reading Sean's guide, I hear its not that bad and actually improves SSD performance.
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I love corsair but that doesn't mean I don't know what i'm talking about or doing. I have worked with computers for a long time, especially hardware. I actually am going to move my page file over to the SSD per the advice here, I know what the page file is I just wanted to know based on what corsair said if there really was that much of a difference. I'm thinking of upgrading past windows 7 anyway after reading Sean's guide, I hear its not that bad and actually improves SSD performance.

Here's the source of why to place the paging file on SSDs.... MS engineers: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx
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I know what the page file is I just wanted to know based on what corsair said if there really was that much of a difference.

Whether the difference is noticeable or not depends on the system. For the most part, most modern systems have enough RAM (8+GB) that a pagefile isn't really needed. If the pagefile barely gets any use (which is the likely scenario for a new PC), then performance would be practically the same regardless if it's placed on an SSD or HDD. However, if the system ever does use the pagefile, obviously, it'll be much faster if it's stored on the SSD. The system where I noticed the performance hit was running 32-bit Windows, had only 3GB RAM useable and was even running a couple of virtual machines so in my case, data was often being read from/written to the pagefile on the HDD which made things pretty laggy.
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That page file recommendation from Corsair could have been written when 40 and 60 GB SSDs were still popular, and a 8GB or 16GB swap/hibernation file was a huge amount of overhead that could be moved off to a HDD. Now that 256GB+ SSDs are readily available, that same 8-16 GB page file all of a sudden is a much smaller percentage of total space, and the desire to move it off to slower HDD storage is less important.

When SSDS were less mature technology, the number of P/E cycles they could tolerate and write-leveling algorithms were less adept too. Another reason why an older article might have recommended to move the page file.

By "older" - we're only talking 3-4 years or older here. SSDs have come a long way in a very short amount of time.

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That page file recommendation from Corsair could have been written when 40 and 60 GB SSDs were still popular, and a 8GB or 16GB swap/hibernation file was a huge amount of overhead that could be moved off to a HDD. Now that 256GB+ SSDs are readily available, that same 8-16 GB page file all of a sudden is a much smaller percentage of total space, and the desire to move it off to slower HDD storage is less important.

When SSDS were less mature technology, the number of P/E cycles they could tolerate and write-leveling algorithms were less adept too. Another reason why an older article might have recommended to move the page file.

Yep, pretty much. I checked out the guide and it was written July 2010. In those days, 40GB SSDs were going for around $100. TRIM was just barely introduced so write amplification was a legitimate concern. Heck, I believe some of the early Indilinx drives had WA over 50x. Granted, P/E cycle count was also higher in the early days (5-10K for MLC, 100K for SLC). Still, much of the earlier recommended SSD tweaks were overly conservative.
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