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so you're happier with your slower CPU because you think that AMD is doing more for gamers/users??,

LoL @ the need to justify your purchase

Yep i am happier beacuse it is faster that i7 when FX is overclcoked to 4,9GHz - BF3 MP... in my country FX 6300 is about 25-50$ cheaper then i3 4130, 80$ than i5 4430 (i5 4670K-150$, i7 3770-200$)...

Yeap i am happpy i saved 150$ over i5 (K)...
For future i will stock with AMD cheap (P/P) model...

I know that people are saying what about "power consumption" - it is not big difference while playing games... OR if you want my test -FX 6300 4,5GHz about 50-55 W more (prime95) than i7.
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Originally Posted by TiezZ BE View Post

so you're happier with your slower CPU because you think that AMD is doing more for gamers/users??,

LoL @ the need to justify your purchase

Yep i am happier beacuse it is faster that i7 when FX is overclcoked to 4,9GHz - BF3 MP... in my country FX 6300 is about 25-50$ cheaper then i3 4130, 80$ than i5 4430 (i5 4670K-150$, i7 3770-200$)...

Yeap i am happpy i saved 150$ over i5 (K)...
For future i will stock with AMD cheap (P/P) model...

I know that people are saying what about "power consumption" - it is not big difference while playing games... OR if you want my test -FX 6300 4,5GHz about 50-55 W more (prime95) than i7.
no, no need to mention power consumption because to say its faster than an i7 (or i5 for that matter) that is also overclocked to, lets say 4.7or 4.8, is utter hogwash.

truth be told you did make a better purchase than an i3 in games or application using more than ~2.5 cores. but lets not get too excited here. not many here fell off a turnip truck recently . . . (hold it, i just reread some posts on this thread)
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post #183 of 388
So with something like PhysX Nvidia makes it so it only works with Nvidia GPUs. It's a feature you get. G-sync in the other hand they want to sell the monitor and tell us the GPUs must be Kepler +.
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post #184 of 388
Well done AMD. If this produces the same experience as G-Sync then advantage AMD because its free and potentially supports many more monitors. Now they just need a Shadowplay like application and there will really be no reason other than raw performance to go with Nvidia or AMD IMO the way it should be. Almost forgot PhysX which I can take or leave.

For the inevitable "AMD driver suck" post please don't even bother.
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So with something like PhysX Nvidia makes it so it only works with Nvidia GPUs. It's a feature you get. G-sync in the other hand they want to sell the monitor and tell us the GPUs must be Kepler +.

Didn't Nvidia originally offer AMD/ATI access to PhysX, I'm sure Alatar posted that in some other forum where this same argument was brought up.
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post #185 of 388
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Well done AMD. If this produces the same experience as G-Sync then advantage AMD because its free and potentially supports many more monitors. Now they just need a Shadowplay like application and there will really be no reason other than raw performance to go with Nvidia or AMD IMO the way it should be. Almost forgot PhysX which I can take or leave.

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Didn't Nvidia originally offer AMD/ATI access to PhysX, I'm sure Alatar posted that in some other forum where this same argument was brought up.


"if".......

"if" it works on a desktop display

"if" it does the same thing as gsync

"if" amd has even started to make this something useful

there are a lot of ifs when it comes to this and amd.
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"if".......

"if" it works on a desktop display

"if" it does the same thing as gsync

"if" amd has even started to make this something useful

there are a lot of ifs when it comes to this and amd.

There is no reason whatsoever (Have you read the article) to think it will not work on a desktop display, I really don't get that "If". It's clearly been designed to go against G-sync, Their demo depicts that intention and also their naming. The demo shows that AMD has made something which is already in the Vesa standard useful and not only that but has showed Nvidia up as they require you (currently) to purchase a module or a entirely new monitor. Unless Nvidia had no idea that there was a Vesa standard for controlling Vblank (Unlikely).
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Btw...

I would hold off on buying anything atm.

 

I could care less about G-sync. 

 

What I want to know is, if Asus's new monitors will support FreeSync...?

(My question has zero to do with NVidia.)  

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We don't have any idea whether monitors support VBLANK or not already. If they don't, they'll have to re-release the current monitors or release new monitors with VBLANK supported assuming that they require more than just a firmware update. If this happens, we'd still have to buy a new monitor, except that these monitors don't have the $100 G-Sync price tag attached to it. Still want to see the list of currently supported VBLANK monitors though. tongue.gif
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It would be cost prohibitive to the consumer to support both,

Not a particularly hard thing to implement. A simply modification to the existing design, as well as a contract for an AMD module will cost a couple million at the most. In return you don't have to make people choose between either technology, as well as artificial price inflation from including both. It's a win-win. Investment is thrown around for absolutely retarded reasons at times, it's just silly not to invest into both.


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as both implementations of this tech require hardware level support from either side. SO you'd be paying for a G-sync module, and a FreeSync module (realistically hardware that supports the VESA standard, but I'm just gonna call it the FreeSync module). That would put it outside of what the consumer would be willing to pay.

Only the implementation will cost you a significant amount of capital. The actual hardware and manufacturing is pennies. That's the most expensive thing nowadays, implementation. Hardware is only expensive for two reasons, difficulty in manufacturing, or difficulty in procurement. Neither which will be a problem when the hardware is essentially a PCB. Hell, Cisco would probably manufacture it for free if you get a nice contract with them.
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We don't have any idea whether monitors support VBLANK or not already. If they don't, they'll have to re-release the current monitors or release new monitors with VBLANK supported assuming that they require more than just a firmware update. If this happens, we'd still have to buy a new monitor, except that these monitors don't have the $100 G-Sync price tag attached to it. Still want to see the list of currently supported VBLANK monitors though. tongue.gif

Could this not be determined from eh monitors EDID?
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