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post #191 of 388
I don't care about G-Sync's elimination of tearing because it doesn't bother me, I just want to know if variable refresh strobing is possible.
post #192 of 388
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Like i said i have i7 3770 "at home". I know the speed, i had time to research it for my friend believe me, i did benchmark between i5/i7/FX4300/FX6300. Actually FX has a lot of unused power. FX 6300 is better for steaming than i5 - same frequency. But still i5/i7 both are worth money - if you can afford it.

When will they release this free-sync?
Edited by Themisseble - 1/7/14 at 2:21pm
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FX 6300 is better for steaming than i5

Unsubstantiated claim.

i5 being faster in games almost automatically means its better for streaming because the dips you are going to get streaming will be lower than if you started at lower frames with an AMD cpu.

(Yes, i streamed on twitch for 6 months using a 2500k, worked like a champ).
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I don't think Free-sync is an actual item or fix. I think they showed this to prove or set in motion the fact that the idea Gsync uses is not new. But I think the bigger reason is that G-sync tech should be free. Why?

Say you bought a car that was AWD where it is front wheel drive and engages the rear wheels when the extra traction is needed. But you found that the AWD/rear wheel part doesn't work all the time and seems to only work in certain instances. Then the dealer tells you that they have just come out with and addon part to fix the problem but it will cost you $X---. The fact is the product should work or in the least the fix should not have a cost.

This is what I think AMD was alluding to. Frame time issues are an inherent issue with GPUs and Monitors interfacing. Any such fix that gets the original result should not be proprietary and should be implemented on basis of "its how it should have been".
post #195 of 388
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I don't think Free-sync is an actual item or fix. I think they showed this to prove or set in motion the fact that the idea Gsync uses is not new. But I think the bigger reason is that G-sync tech should be free. Why?

Say you bought a car that was AWD where it is front wheel drive and engages the rear wheels when the extra traction is needed. But you found that the AWD/rear wheel part doesn't work all the time and seems to only work in certain instances. Then the dealer tells you that they have just come out with and addon part to fix the problem but it will cost you $X---. The fact is the product should work or in the least the fix should not have a cost.

This is what I think AMD was alluding to. Frame time issues are an inherent issue with GPUs and Monitors interfacing. Any such fix that gets the original result should not be proprietary and should be implemented on basis of "its how it should have been".


This makes the most sense out of anything ive read in this thread. This isnt a product its just AMD letting everyone know gsync is something that should have been baseline in gpu/monitor tech for quite some time.
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I don't think Free-sync is an actual item or fix. I think they showed this to prove or set in motion the fact that the idea Gsync uses is not new. But I think the bigger reason is that G-sync tech should be free. Why?

Say you bought a car that was AWD where it is front wheel drive and engages the rear wheels when the extra traction is needed. But you found that the AWD/rear wheel part doesn't work all the time and seems to only work in certain instances. Then the dealer tells you that they have just come out with and addon part to fix the problem but it will cost you $X---. The fact is the product should work or in the least the fix should not have a cost.

This is what I think AMD was alluding to. Frame time issues are an inherent issue with GPUs and Monitors interfacing. Any such fix that gets the original result should not be proprietary and should be implemented on basis of "its how it should have been".
While I absolutely agree this is how it should have been since DVI, it won't be cheap until AMD gets enough support from monitor manufacturers to actually compete with g-sync.
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so then what advantage would G Sync have over FreeSync? There has to be something or Nvidia would never have made it if they new someone else could make a just as good free one with no special hardware needed
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so then what advantage would G Sync have over FreeSync? There has to be something or Nvidia would never have made it if they new someone else could make a just as good free one with no special hardware needed

My guess is they wanted to get more stuff out that they can sell, versus marketing for their existing hardware. Also, Gsync is probably going to be at least a little bit more effective, though that's not much of a consolation for most at that point.
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Unsubstantiated claim.

i5 being faster in games almost automatically means its better for streaming because the dips you are going to get streaming will be lower than if you started at lower frames with an AMD cpu.

(Yes, i streamed on twitch for 6 months using a 2500k, worked like a champ).

You can run VMs and several 1080p youtube videos without affecting your fps on any FX-8xxx
I can tell you that because i do it daily ...
No matter what i throw on it FPS stays where it is ... Sure by default it has very low FPS, but you wont slow down FX bby multitasking because it has so much unused power in almost every game/application...
On the other hand for any i3 ( i tested this on rig i built for friend with i3-4130) chokes if you do any multitask while gaming (it started choking @2 1080p youtube videos and simple game (100% cpu utilisation), 8 core FX wont even come to 50% cpu utilization at same work load).
i5 has some legs tho (tested 3470) but still not as much as FX-8 before its performance starts to degrade , if you start VM and 2 1080p youtube videos you will lose some FPS...
i7 are ofc rock stable while having great FPS out of the box.
In general for budget streaming i would recommend FX for most things over any i3 and i5. While ofc i7 would own any how.

For me it is important i have tons of programs running simultaneously as i play that is why i roll FX-8120 clocked at 4ghz-4.4ghz and in the same time i am on the very very tight budget.
Edited by Stormscion - 1/7/14 at 2:50pm
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You didn't understand what i was saying. No one is arguing an i3 will multitask as well as a fx 8 core, im saying because your framerates are so much higher with intel that the loss you will get with streaming will be more noticeable on an AMD rig (and he was talking about 6 core amd btw vs i5).

Anywho, back on topic.
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