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post #1 of 6
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I have recently upgraded my CPU from an AMD fx-4170 to an AMD fx 8350. I had problems with the 4170 when it came to overheating on strenuous loads (Planetside 2 and rendering videos), but i bought a Cooler Master Hyper TX3 and that fixed the problem.

With my new build containing the 8350, the problem is starting to persist again, only in a much weirder pattern. I can render videos without a sweat, and i ran prime 95 for an hour without it going about 55C, but when i run Planetside 2, the temps just rise rather quickly and cause a black screen followed by an automatic reboot. Anyone know if this is just an issue with applications that utilize CPU's rather poorly, or if there is something more serious behind the problem?

BUILD:

MOBO - Gigabyte 970A-D3
CPU - AMD fx 8350
CPU FAN - Cooler Master Hyper TX3
THERMAL PASTE - Arctic Silver 5
V CARD - Nvidia GTX 660 ti Power Edition
PSU -Allieo AL-D500EXP 500W
Operating System - Windows 8.1






post #2 of 6
Thread Starter 
Looked at my voltage my motherboard is running my CPU at, it usually stayed at 1.4V under load. Is that normal stock voltage?
post #3 of 6
With turbo turned on, it should run 1.400V for 4.10ghz and 1.425V for 4.2ghz by default, but these are very demanding loads for that very small VRM configuration with no heat-sinking. Probably runs 1.375V or less when turbo ramps all the way down under parallel workloads, which may be the reason that you don't have stability problems when you run a steady parallel workload, but start having problems when you run a game that pegs a few cores at turbo speeds and loads em up hard.

The black screen and sudden reboot, is likely your motherboard saying "screw you man I'm out!"

This compilation put together by other dedicated OCN members has some insight for you to consider: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgN1D79Joo7tdE9xMUFlMEVWeFhuckJEVF9aMmtpUFE&output=html&widget=true
Click on the giga tab, and check the "notes" for your board. throttling and limited CPU support. Also note, 4+1 phase, no heat-sinking.

Now go here: http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3908#
Click on the CPU support list. No FX-8350.

Your board doesn't officially support an FX-8350, for good reason. It can't deliver the power necessary to run that chip at default settings.


Assuming the board is recognizing and running the chip anyway. You can make adjustments to get the chip to run stable if you would like, but you might have to sacrifice some clock speed. Interested?
Edited by mdocod - 1/6/14 at 9:48pm
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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post #4 of 6
I would change that psu
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=65

Btw which is ypur budget for a heatsink?any online store?
post #5 of 6
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

I would change that psu
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=65
I agree with this, had similar problems on an older build with a cheap PSU such as this.
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks, i'll turn off the turbo feature to keep the heat down.

It looks like i'm gonna have to get a new motherboard and PSU eventually, but seeing as I have no current way to fund upgrades for whole a whole new motherboard and good PSU (i'm 14 years old, I funded this through chores and b-day money), is there any real harm running the system like it currently is configured for about 6 or so months until i can get the money built up again?
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