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First off, honestly, the best headphones I've ever worn are $10 earbuds (srs)..so any of these are going to be unreal to me. That said, I want a good quality pair I can keep for years. I likely will be using these 90/10 for gaming/music, respectively, with a clip on mic. I don't intend on buying (read: I won't be, at least not for a long longwhile) an amp or anything other than a Sound Blaster Z sound card.

Which of the below are my best bet? I play FPS only, so I like good sound quality with detail recognition, and nice explosions.

Q701 - $200
DT-990-Pro-250's - $150

I don't know much about this stuff (reading and learning currently), but I think the Q701's would be best due to the lower OHM and my desire not to spend extra money on an amp (to support and bring out the best in the DT 990 250OHM).

I posted this in the OCN Most Recommended thread as well, so sorry to double post, but I am in a big rush on this.
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Neither then.

If you are not gonna buy an amp, then those headphones are not going to sound all that great. Both headphones NEED more power than even your sound card can provide.

The Q701s actually need an amp just as badly as the DT990s. Sure the impedance is lower, but they are less efficient headphones.

If you want decent headphones that do not require a amp, look at the audio technica ath-AD900x. Either that, or get the DT990 pros and a cheap cmoy amp for 40-50 bucks.
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Neither then.

If you are not gonna buy an amp, then those headphones are not going to sound all that great. Both headphones NEED more power than even your sound card can provide.

The Q701s actually need an amp just as badly as the DT990s. Sure the impedance is lower, but they are less efficient headphones.

If you want decent headphones that do not require a amp, look at the audio technica ath-AD900x. Either that, or get the DT990 pros and a cheap cmoy amp for 40-50 bucks.

Thanks for the response. What is a "good enough" cheap amp for the Q701's to get them to where they are performing well? I guess I didn't realize that it would still be 100% necessary, but I could maybe move my budget a bit if necessary.
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Should be no issues with Sound Blaster Z & Q701, just saying. If you have Zx or ZxR, don't use the volume knob extension.

My volume is at 18% and it is already loud but I understand speaking of other frequency to push for the full potential with a true amp.

 

But here I would get these, but apparently I'm out of budget due to watercool investment: http://www.jdslabs.com/store/ 


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^^ Thanks for the response, djrif.

So, I looked more into some amps. I have a few questions left:

- I am thinking of getting the Q701's and Sound Blaster Z, would the ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 be better?
- Initially I won't be able to get an amp due to budget, but I will look to add a FiiO E9 as soon as possible. Is this a suitable amp for these? Is there something better in the same price range?
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An asus DGX has a built in amp that would work. You can find a used asus STX for about 100-150 that has a fairly decent onboard amp.

Seriously though. Look into the Audio technica ATH-AD900X. It is more comfortable than the Q701s and has a bigger sound stage IMO. The Q701s are slightly better, but by the time you weigh all the pros and cons for gaming, I would rather have the AD900x any day of the week or the DT990s.

The Q701s are not comfortable for long gaming sessions.
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An asus DGX has a built in amp that would work. You can find a used asus STX for about 100-150 that has a fairly decent onboard amp.

Seriously though. Look into the Audio technica ATH-AD900X. It is more comfortable than the Q701s and has a bigger sound stage IMO. The Q701s are slightly better, but by the time you weigh all the pros and cons for gaming, I would rather have the AD900x any day of the week or the DT990s.

The Q701s are not comfortable for long gaming sessions.

I have read varying opinions on the Q701s comfort, but I agree, that is a concern. My main downfall with the AD900X is that they are ugly as sin, kind of kills it for me to be honest, as stupid as I am sure that sounds.

I guess I should rewind for a minute first....if I am just using these for gaming, are these headphones overkill for what I honestly need?
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I guess the comfort is like trying new chairs and shoes. Everyone has it own different comfort, Q701 is very comfortable in my experiences and I wear thick glasses frames.

 
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I guess the comfort is like trying new chairs and shoes. Everyone has it own different comfort, Q701 is very comfortable in my experiences and I wear thick glasses frames.

See those bumps dig into my head after a while. I ended up sticking some foam on the band and solve the problem.

Anyways, I would say that a good option for a gaming headphone/set would be the sennheiser PC360. They are being phased out as we speak, so they are hard to find. But they have all the pros of decent sennheiser headphones and a mic for gaming. You do not need an amp or even a sound card. While I still would recommend getting a cheap asus DGX or something like that, with these headphones, the onboard sound on modern motherboard sounds good enough to get you through FPS gaming.
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An asus DGX has a built in amp that would work. You can find a used asus STX for about 100-150 that has a fairly decent onboard amp.

Seriously though. Look into the Audio technica ATH-AD900X. It is more comfortable than the Q701s and has a bigger sound stage IMO. The Q701s are slightly better, but by the time you weigh all the pros and cons for gaming, I would rather have the AD900x any day of the week or the DT990s.

The Q701s are not comfortable for long gaming sessions.
Uh... Doesn't the Sound Blaster Z have much better amp than the Xonar DG? (Maxim MAX97220A to be exact)

Getting a feeling that ppl are confused when the OP is saying that the SBZ doesn't have an onboard amp...
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