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Do you thing that 398 EUR is a good price for a GB R9 290 OC (WF3 cooling)? I have one of those but i am thinking to take one more for a new rig?
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Scrypt ASIC have hit the market hard wink.gif Now these online stores are dropping prices to even SELL a few gpu's

It's comical.

Newegg selling R9 270's for $170 LOL......
  
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Scrypt ASIC have hit the market hard wink.gif Now these online stores are dropping prices to even SELL a few gpu's

It's comical.

Newegg selling R9 270's for $170 LOL......
Really? can you post a few?
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Scrypt ASIC have hit the market hard wink.gif Now these online stores are dropping prices to even SELL a few gpu's

It's comical.

Newegg selling R9 270's for $170 LOL......

Weren't you just saying a couple weeks ago that scrypt ASICs are just rumors? biggrin.gif

Anyways, I don't think they'll hit scrypt as hard as they hit SHA-256, it's $3800 for 5MH/s which is right around $760/MH/s, similar to what you could get with GPUs, in fact depending on how/where you buy it's more expensive than GPU mining. As many have predicted it's not as price/performance friendly, but it's WAY more power/performance friendly. The Alpha Tech Viper, which is the 5MH/s for $3800 one, uses between 60w-100w depending on how lucky you are. So all in all, the guys who were spending boat loads on GPUs are going to switch to the ASICs, the people who use mining in off times to help pay for their hobbies will still be able to benefit just as I was saying a while back.

So yeah, like many others were predicting, ASICs are going to drop Rx 200 prices greatly.
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Scrypt ASIC have hit the market hard wink.gif Now these online stores are dropping prices to even SELL a few gpu's

It's comical.

Newegg selling R9 270's for $170 LOL......
more like raising diff and low price hit the market hard.

In Aug/Sep, a 7970 mine about 1 LTC a day at, market price bounds between $2 ~ $2.5
In Mar , a 7970 mine about 0.14935907 LTC a day, market price bounds between $16 ~ $17 which it net $2.5/day
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Weren't you just saying a couple weeks ago that scrypt ASICs are just rumors? biggrin.gif

Anyways, I don't think they'll hit scrypt as hard as they hit SHA-256, it's $3800 for 5MH/s which is right around $760/MH/s, similar to what you could get with GPUs, in fact depending on how/where you buy it's more expensive than GPU mining. As many have predicted it's not as price/performance friendly, but it's WAY more power/performance friendly. The Alpha Tech Viper, which is the 5MH/s for $3800 one, uses between 60w-100w depending on how lucky you are. So all in all, the guys who were spending boat loads on GPUs are going to switch to the ASICs, the people who use mining in off times to help pay for their hobbies will still be able to benefit just as I was saying a while back.

So yeah, like many others were predicting, ASICs are going to drop Rx 200 prices greatly.
You either are either trolling me good or not reading good. biggrin.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1457148/r9-290-290x-price-drop-predictions/330#post_21810737
http://www.overclock.net/t/1457148/r9-290-290x-price-drop-predictions/260#post_21782138

It was established gridseeds existed before they were sold to the public, this was acknowledged and known. There were models out for a long time before it was sold in mass quantitys. Even with the USB miner. Gridseed is a 300-400kh/s for $200 and not a 5mh-25mh/s miner that costs almost $10,000. Complete different ball game.

There are more scam companies selling asics then there are real ones. You can even follow forum threads in actual cryptocurrency forums to see what people are doing and updating about each individual company. There is a huge thread on litecointalk as well as bitcointalk

There are a lot of people who are going to lose money just like they did with bitcoin asic miners.

Most are fake, it's just obvious. The only luck you will ever have with alpha tech is actually of receiving one. The alpha tech doesn't use 60-100w because it doesn't exist. It's nothing more than a rumor and a 3d rendered image online until a board appears.. Theres no sample, no prototype, just images of designs, and plans. Until their release date passes we can't say anything, but until they do not exist until then sniper.gif

Do we know how long these gridseed units will last? No, neither do the people who bought them, hopefully they last untill ROI for them because asic miners have no resale value if something bad happens to scrypt.

What is funny is how drastic the price dropped from a $279 MSI 270 to a $170 MSI 270 on newegg, people are going to clean up with high supply and low demand, and it's going to be rinse and repeat
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Really? can you post a few?
http://www.newegg.com
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You either are good at trolling or bad at reading. It was established gridseeds existed before they were sold to the public. It's also established that most of these HUGE scrypt asic companies are complete scams.

There are more scam companies selling asics then there are real ones. Most are fake, it's obvious. The alpha tech doesn't use 60-100w because it simply doesn't exist. Until it does, it's nothing more than a rumor

Do we know how long these gridseed units will last? No, neither do the people who bought them, hopefully they last untill ROI for them because asic miners have no resale value if something bad happens to scrypt.

What is funny is how drastic the price dropped from a $279 MSI 270 to a $170 MSI 270 on newegg, people are going to clean up with high supply and low demand, and it's going to be rinse and repeat

Then there's this:
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Asics are a myth to scrypt mining unless you physically went to China and have one. You speak of asic scrypt miners as if they provide 500% hash for 500% less watt consumption. Until one is made they hold no weight, don't fool yourself thinking there are 1000 scrypt asic's being made. IF any are being made it is for the people making them and their friends. If you were around a few years ago you would notice the nonsense it was to buy a butterfly labs asic and other asics.

Gritseed == Is 3 MH/s @ 70watts

R9 290X stock will draw around 280watts of power, and a good R9 290X can hash up to 1MH/s if you're smart which manu you buy from.

That's 300% hashrate of a good GPU miner, and 8% power consumed when compared to GPUs mining the equivalent hashrate.

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Then there's this:
Gritseed == Is 3 MH/s @ 70watts

R9 290X stock will draw around 280watts of power, and a good R9 290X can hash up to 1MH/s if you're smart which manu you buy from.

That's 300% hashrate of a good GPU miner, and 8% power consumed when compared to GPUs mining the equivalent hashrate.


http://www.overclock.net/t/1457148/r9-290-290x-price-drop-predictions/330#post_21810737
http://www.overclock.net/t/1457148/r9-290-290x-price-drop-predictions/260#post_21782138

it's just foolish for you to compare a 290x with a gridseed when a 270 is the best $/hash/kWh video card out there.

Your asic has 30day warranty

Your gpu has 1-3 year warranty and a re-sale value

Is this really going to be a discussion?
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Here is the thing for an ongoing discussion
ASIC scrypt miners will consume a minimal amount of power. Sure that's amazing, if you can ever buy one.
ie: alpha techs 25mh/s miner for $8000
You will get a lot more hash for a lot less value. Problem is how many people will get it, if any people will get it at all.


How many asics will actually reach the market?
Asics don't provide that much more of a hash then the gpu's will so they really will not affect the actual market enough to hurt us, they will only be saving a select amount and group of people power costs and easier ROI. There realistically won't be 10,000 of these sold.

Scrypt ASIC's will remain a "myth" until an actual BATCH is shipped. Whether a batch of 10 or 100.
Unless you know someone in China and can get your hands on one through them, we are safe buying GPU's for a very long time.

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http://www.overclock.net/t/1457148/r9-290-290x-price-drop-predictions/260#post_21782138

it's just foolish for you to compare a 290x with a gridseed when a 270 is the best $/hash/kWh video card out there.

Your asic has 30day warranty

Your gpu has 1-3 year warranty and a re-sale value

Is this really going to be a discussion?

Well I guess that's what I get for only paying intermittent attention to this thread. XD

Well at the very least they're driving GPU prices back to semi normal, or at least helping in doing such.
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Well I guess that's what I get for only paying intermittent attention to this thread. XD

Well at the very least they're driving GPU prices back to semi normal, or at least helping in doing such.
these gridseed are going to put a huge dent in scrypt frown.gif
guess we have to wait and see how long they will last and what other asics will hit

i honestly did not expect so many of these to get produced off the bat, they are really confident with the product
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