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I didn't think I would ever do this, but the Powercolor PCS+ is my recommendation. The one in my computer is in there with a terrible fan/airflow configuration, and it hits 69-70c after 2 hours of whatever I throw at it (BF4, BF3, FarCry 3). It's stable, not overly loud like the ASUS, and cool like a Tri-X.

Holy hell! I just looked up guru3D's review of the card and it stays ridiculously cool (68 C peak on silent mode, 63 on uber), it comes out of the box with relatively high core and memory clock speeds, and it looks cool. I'm surprised it isn't recommended more often. But it literally just jumped up in price to $530 on newegg. frown.gif
Edited by Serandur - 3/26/14 at 11:54am
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Powercolor for gaming is clearly slower than Sapphire and MSI. It might be cooler, but it need to run higher in order to perform on par with MSI and Sapphire. I would go with MSI or Sapphire for build quality.
    
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Seems like the best prices for these cards are on eBay now from ex-miners. I've seen a few 290Xs go for $400 or less and I finally scooped one up for a good price.

I can only assume these cards have been run at 90'C+ 24/7 for several months. My card in particular has probably been running as such for 3 months (fan looks quite dusty).

I'm worried about degradation or potential failure but haven't heard of such experiences first-hand.
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Seems like the best prices for these cards are on eBay now from ex-miners. I've seen a few 290Xs go for $400 or less and I finally scooped one up for a good price.

I can only assume these cards have been run at 90'C+ 24/7 for several months. My card in particular has probably been running as such for 3 months (fan looks quite dusty).

I'm worried about degradation or potential failure but haven't heard of such experiences first-hand.
I'm still waiting on mine, but I scored a 290 for $340. "lightly used" for two months ...rolleyes.gif

We'll see, i guess!
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Powercolor for gaming is clearly slower than Sapphire and MSI. It might be cooler, but it need to run higher in order to perform on par with MSI and Sapphire. I would go with MSI or Sapphire for build quality.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_290X_PCS_Plus/9.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_290X_Tri-X_OC/9.html

I'm sorry, but this might not be exactly true. This is Battlefield 4 on both, and the higher clock on memory and core (at factory) has the PCS outpacing the Tri-X. I looked at the Far Cry 3 test of both and again, whaddya know, the PCS beats the Tri-X.

EDIT: The PCS is faster than the Tri-X, period. 5 benchmarks in a row don't lie. And I'm not talking about 2 random guys that hit 1300 mhz core on stock voltage with Tri-X cards, I'm talking about factory-vs-factory. It simply IS faster than the Tri-X.

SECOND EDIT: All claimed benchmarks by TechPowerUp, using their testing methodology, for fairness.
Edited by hathornd - 3/27/14 at 2:14pm
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My two VisionTek CryoVenom R9 290 water cooled cards arrived yesterday.

Card 1 Their Stability Test
Recommended Power increase +30%,
GPU Stable 1100 Mhz
Memory Stable to 1450 MHz

Card 2 Their Stability Test
Recommended Power increase +30%,
GPU Stable 1150 Mhz
Memory Stable to 1400 MHz

Benchmark temps: 55-60c. With 4930k loaded at 4.5GHz.PWM Fans are controlled by CPU temps.
My one GTX 780 only hit 42c. But that's 600W vs. 920W I have to cool down now.
The rig is in my sig.
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I'm still waiting on mine, but I scored a 290 for $340. "lightly used" for two months ...rolleyes.gif

We'll see, i guess!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-100361BF4SR-Radeon-R9-290X-4GB-GDDR5-PCI-Express-30-/281296329675

The deals keep popping up!

I'm also worried about post-mining-stress-syndrome (PMSS) but it's an Asus with the invoice so I should be good.
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None of y'all can compare to my r9-290x price I got mine for $0. Completely free and it was a press edition cards the first ones they reviewed before retail.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_290X_PCS_Plus/9.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_290X_Tri-X_OC/9.html

I'm sorry, but this might not be exactly true. This is Battlefield 4 on both, and the higher clock on memory and core (at factory) has the PCS outpacing the Tri-X. I looked at the Far Cry 3 test of both and again, whaddya know, the PCS beats the Tri-X.

EDIT: The PCS is faster than the Tri-X, period. 5 benchmarks in a row don't lie. And I'm not talking about 2 random guys that hit 1300 mhz core on stock voltage with Tri-X cards, I'm talking about factory-vs-factory. It simply IS faster than the Tri-X.

SECOND EDIT: All claimed benchmarks by TechPowerUp, using their testing methodology, for fairness.

I have one of each, the Tri-X out benches the Powercolor at the same clocks by a significant margin. For example if the Powercolor gets 63fps in Valley the Tri-X might get 64.5fps, at the same clocks. This is not unusual; go to the Powercolor PCS+ thread and it's filled with folks who are seeing underperforming cards.

But the cooling on the PCS+ is godlike. The reviews understate the case. I'm usually running in the 50s core and vrm1, might hit low to mid 60s in a really intensive game. And this is at a moderate oc of 1140 core 1500 mem, with fans maxing at a quiet 57%. Tri-X cools very well too, but not as well as the PCS+, and the Tri-X fans are some of the loudest I've ever heard in a custom cooler. In fact the only louder card I've ever owned is the 7970 Vapor-X.
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I have one of each, the Tri-X out benches the Powercolor at the same clocks by a significant margin. For example if the Powercolor gets 63fps in Valley the Tri-X might get 64.5fps, at the same clocks. This is not unusual; go to the Powercolor PCS+ thread and it's filled with folks who are seeing underperforming cards.

But the cooling on the PCS+ is godlike. The reviews understate the case. I'm usually running in the 50s core and vrm1, might hit low to mid 60s in a really intensive game. And this is at a moderate oc of 1140 core 1500 mem, with fans maxing at a quiet 57%. Tri-X cools very well too, but not as well as the PCS+, and the Tri-X fans are some of the loudest I've ever heard in a custom cooler. In fact the only louder card I've ever owned is the 7970 Vapor-X.

That has not been my case at all (except for your noise level reports, mine are the same). The Powercolor I have outbenches the ASUS DCII and the MSI Gaming that I have owned (all factory clocks), while maintaining cooler temps with less noise. Some people get bad silicon, some get good, some get normal. The ASUS I had wouldn't overclock at all, and the MSI ran at 87-ish degrees at the factory clocks. The benches that TechPowerUp did have the Powercolor outperforming the Tri-X in every benchmark available, and at every resolution, at every detail level, the PCS is faster.

It is not a case of Powercolor getting lower speed Hawaii chips from AMD, it is a case of chip-by-chip differences. Saying the Tri-X is faster than the PCS because it is "better" (more expensive) is like saying a $700 titanium diving knife is better than a $70 Benchmade because it costs 10x as much.
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